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    I heard the 22nd.
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    550$ is just too much for 2GB. All that cores might pack a lot of horsepower but 2GB is not going to be enough for very high resolutions. Nvidia really made a mistake, unless they want to force enthusiasts to first buy a 2GB version and then a 3 or 4GB version.

    Anyway, 2GB will be enough for 1080 screens. This card will blow minds at 1080.

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    Food for thought: maybe NVIDIA realized that they don't NEED what would be deemed a "high end Kepler" to trounce AMD this round. Maybe their mid range core is more than enough.

    /runs back out of thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Food for thought: maybe NVIDIA realized that they don't NEED what would be deemed a "high end Kepler" to trounce AMD this round. Maybe their mid range core is more than enough.

    /runs back out of thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Food for thought: maybe NVIDIA realized that they don't NEED what would be deemed a "high end Kepler" to trounce AMD this round. Maybe their mid range core is more than enough.

    /runs back out of thread
    That tease was not cool Sky. lol
    Hopefully they dont price the 'mid-range' cards at the same price point as the 'high end' AMD offerings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Food for thought: maybe NVIDIA realized that they don't NEED what would be deemed a "high end Kepler" to trounce AMD this round. Maybe their mid range core is more than enough.

    /runs back out of thread
    What a tease

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Food for thought: maybe NVIDIA realized that they don't NEED what would be deemed a "high end Kepler" to trounce AMD this round. Maybe their mid range core is more than enough.

    /runs back out of thread
    Then I just hope Nvidia realized that after testing their card using Skyrim + HD textures, Shogun 2 and GTA IV+mods.
    We're going to have a funny situation if at $550, Nvidia's card fails because it runs out of vram.

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    $549 sounds too much, $499 sounds reasonable unless it's on average at least 15~20% faster than HD 7970 which seems unlikely. Coming several months late means it needs to have at least $50 lower price at same performance as the competitor, that's how this business usually works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattlef View Post
    That tease was not cool Sky. lol
    Hopefully they dont price the 'mid-range' cards at the same price point as the 'high end' AMD offerings.
    I hope not as well BUT if the performance is there so will the price, just the way it goes and its totally understandable from a buisness standpoint.
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    expensive and I fully expect the crowd to state its a robbery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Food for thought: maybe NVIDIA realized that they don't NEED what would be deemed a "high end Kepler" to trounce AMD this round. Maybe their mid range core is more than enough.

    /runs back out of thread

    wooooow, nice

    if what you say is true, I can say that Nvidia proudly surpass with its- new generation mid range -the new generation high end by AMD.so let's put it simple Nvidia is the big boss in this competition

    ( Imagine the look of CEO face when he when that happen) ( Mid range beat High end) ....that's kind of cool name
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    Quote Originally Posted by flopper View Post
    expensive and I fully expect the crowd to state its a robbery.
    Same price as 7970 :

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rder=BESTMATCH

    But what about performance, power consumption, OC capabilities, noise ... We don't know yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattlef View Post
    That tease was not cool Sky. lol
    Hopefully they dont price the 'mid-range' cards at the same price point as the 'high end' AMD offerings.
    People were defending AMD doing that in comparison to the GTX 580... double standards at work, eh? (Not aimed at you, but it brought that to mind...)

    Release can't come soon enough to just get the air cleared.

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    On the other hand, you can't say the fastest card avalaible from Nvidia now is "mid-range". It will be mid-range once a fastest model comes out, meanwhile the fastest and most expensive is high end, independently of Nvidia's plans of releasing a faster card.

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    A mid-range card sold for $550 would be taking the piss. Smells like price fixing.
    With a small die like that and just 2GB of VRAM it can't possibly cost more than $200 to manufacture (probably WAY less).
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    Well if they name it 680/x80 thats been the norm for high end, if they price it at $500+ thats definitely priced to the high end, if it performs in the same range or better than the 7970 that should indicate its high end as well.

    Not sure what there is to consider the card any sort of midrange based on whats being said.

    If price/performance/model numbering is in line the card will high end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    A mid-range card sold for $550 would be taking the piss. Smells like price fixing.
    With a small die like that and just 2GB of VRAM it can't possibly cost more than $200 to manufacture (probably WAY less).
    I agree with you Zalbard which might be a first. All of AMD pricing hasn't really effected any of Nvidia line up besides the gtx 580 which it basically had too considering that I don't think the 7970 would sell too well at the 650 range(they also have worse price/performance over their last generation which is a first for them). I think this might be a coordinated effort on both sides to raise pricing because the low end market is gone with most processors having built in integrated graphics. If Nvidia follows AMD's new pricing, then both sides can enjoy higher profit because this is a duopoly. The new naming of the gtx 680(gk 104 should have been gtx 660) will let them get away with it for the vast majority of the market; especially if the performance is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Maņo View Post
    Then I just hope Nvidia realized that after testing their card using Skyrim + HD textures, Shogun 2 and GTA IV+mods.
    We're going to have a funny situation if at $550, Nvidia's card fails because it runs out of vram.
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    Anyway, 2GB will be enough for 1080 screens. This card will blow minds at 1080.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Maņo View Post
    Then I just hope Nvidia realized that after testing their card using Skyrim + HD textures, Shogun 2 and GTA IV+mods.
    We're going to have a funny situation if at $550, Nvidia's card fails because it runs out of vram.
    You know, this is why I always wished that some sites would step outside the box and test some games with mods since that can make a huge difference. Darkplaces, a quake source port with the mods that I use uses a ton of vram and beats the crap out of the cpu (it makes for a great cpu bench).

    Oh, did AMD ever fix their performance issues in GTA with the latest patch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Food for thought: maybe NVIDIA realized that they don't NEED what would be deemed a "high end Kepler" to trounce AMD this round. Maybe their mid range core is more than enough.

    /runs back out of thread
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    Thats the greatest Ive ever seen in my whole life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Fussion View Post
    That almost doesn't look right. It's not as if 4096 is a small resolution shadow map so I'm surprised to see it so blocky.
    if i had to guess i would say that the shadow res is stretched across the entire shadow field of view rather than implemented on a per shadow basis as reducing the shadow view distance also sharpens the shadows
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    Food for thought: maybe NVIDIA realized that they don't NEED what would be deemed a "high end Kepler" to trounce AMD this round. Maybe their mid range core is more than enough.

    /runs back out of thread


    But IF, (everything based on rumors)

    1) GK104 has almost the same die size as 7970
    2) GK104 has almost the same price as 7970
    3) GK104 will be called GTX680,

    canīt we consider it high end?

    ... Will we see a GTX 685 as a high end card?

    ... GTX 690 wonīt be two GPUs on the same PCB?

    I think thereīs been a long time since AMD and Nvidia are not sharing the same vision on what a high end part is.
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