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  1. #526
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    You've got it: RAID Option ROM. That's why I'm mad. Really mad.
    Already flashed this BIOS a few days ago, so far so good.

    Just few quick questions:
    - Are you using RAID or AHCI mode?
    - Stock MS AHCI driver or AMD?
    - If you are using the one from AMD, which version is it?
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    Not using one, but there are 2 concerns with sb750 an ahci:
    1. if Asus didn't fix it as some others did in later bios releases, using msahci will cause a 10-30s pause/delay right when the windows loading screen appears.
    2. some sb750 users (me included) complained about the latest amd ahci present on 12.1 (bsod starting windows), whereas the previous 11.12 works ok.

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    BSOD on 12.1 is probably caused by erratic installer btw, check last posts of this thread here (Greek Forum, use google translation)...use manual .inf installation from device manager...

    I have my old installation in 2x WD6400AAKS W7 x64 Raid-0, using 3.2.1540.75...it's too old though and loads of apps installed, so it's slow...disk check from raid rom is fast, however...
    New installations include 1x Crucial M4 128GB for XP x64 with 12.1 AHCI (1.2.001.0317, 10/04/2011) and 1x Crucial M4 128GB for Win 7 x64 with 12.1 AHCI (1.2.001.0321, 10/28/2011)...

    Never used MSAHCI, maybe just onec to check performance differences. It's true that drivers for raid after .75 and ahci after 11.5 i think had for some reason crappy performance compared to previous ones, even compared to msahci...

    current ones are still ok...

    BTW 4101 is cool i'm running same settings 24hrs straight and seems to be stable (wasn't expected to be different)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlleyViper View Post
    Not using one, but there are 2 concerns with sb750 an ahci:
    1. if Asus didn't fix it as some others did in later bios releases, using msahci will cause a 10-30s pause/delay right when the windows loading screen appears.
    2. some sb750 users (me included) complained about the latest amd ahci present on 12.1 (bsod starting windows), whereas the previous 11.12 works ok.
    Now I'm using the MS AHCI driver, given up AMD RAID and AHCI driver a long time ago. I had massive data loss in the past and decided to unRAID my drives and stay with the stock MS AHCI driver. These lockups are still common, but not when Windows loads. They just came randomly. The HDD LED on my case starts to glow continuously and I can't access my hard drives for 10-30s when it happens. At least it looks like it doesn't makes my data corrupted.



    Quote Originally Posted by felix_w View Post
    BSOD on 12.1 is probably caused by erratic installer btw, check last posts of this thread here (Greek Forum, use google translation)...use manual .inf installation from device manager...

    I have my old installation in 2x WD6400AAKS W7 x64 Raid-0, using 3.2.1540.75...it's too old though and loads of apps installed, so it's slow...disk check from raid rom is fast, however...
    New installations include 1x Crucial M4 128GB for XP x64 with 12.1 AHCI (1.2.001.0317, 10/04/2011) and 1x Crucial M4 128GB for Win 7 x64 with 12.1 AHCI (1.2.001.0321, 10/28/2011)...

    Never used MSAHCI, maybe just onec to check performance differences. It's true that drivers for raid after .75 and ahci after 11.5 i think had for some reason crappy performance compared to previous ones, even compared to msahci...

    current ones are still ok...

    BTW 4101 is cool i'm running same settings 24hrs straight and seems to be stable (wasn't expected to be different)
    Interesting, you're not experiencing the problems what I had with RAID. I'm starting to think that my board doesn't likes Samsung HDDs. Don't know why though, never heard any compatibility problems with this board and Samsung hard drives. I feel a bit lost now. My last chance was an upgraded RAID Option ROM to narrow down my problem, but I think Asus are not going to release it for this board. Ever. BIOS modding is way out of my knovledge to do it myself even if it's possible.

    Thanks for the answers guys!
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    If that is of any help for you, i use :

    2x WD6400AAKS (Western Digital), 2x ST32000542AS(Seagate Green), 1x HD400LJ (Samsung Spinpoint T133 - retired to an old machine atm)

    with my board, no problems at all.

    Driver 3.2.1540.75, RaidXpert 3.2.1540.17

    The only think happening from time to time, which i think we've discussed in previous page,is the drive scan during boot, which sometimes takes long (2-3 times has complete hang)


    Latest Gigabyte 790FX-SB750 boards, also have 3.0.1540.59 and 3.0.9/3.0.A Ahci Rom...i guess that's it, no more Raid updates...

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    OT: explaining issue further

    Quote Originally Posted by felix_w View Post
    BSOD on 12.1 is probably caused by erratic installer btw, check last posts of this thread here (Greek Forum, use google translation)...use manual .inf installation from device manager...
    Thanks, but this isn't the case. Translation isn't working very well, but for what I can understand the only user reporting a successful install is running xp64 which uses another driver while the others are stuck.
    In the past with my board and some 09 drivers I always had to install via *.inf because the setup wouldn't allow to update it, but it was just some missing hardware id's to match a sb750, before passing installation to the *.inf which had them.
    I've made a thread explaining this situation, and I set up ports in combined mode so that the OS drive was in IDE allowing windows to successfully boot, but the remaining 4 ports running in ahci with the latest driver 1.2.001.0321 from 12.1 (where I could check that it was correctly installed on device manager, with all files, registry association and *.inf). What happens is that those ports won't detect any drive, hence why it previously failed to boot. Reverting to 1.2.001.0317 on 11.12 immediately solves it.
    But still, as with the 30s msahci delay issue that happened early and sometimes never solved IIRC at least on Giga, Msi and DFI this might be related to specific sb750 boards, as I haven't an Asus M4a79 to check. For that matter, I apologize for this OT.
    Last edited by AlleyViper; 02-21-2012 at 10:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_w View Post
    If that is of any help for you, i use :

    2x WD6400AAKS (Western Digital), 2x ST32000542AS(Seagate Green), 1x HD400LJ (Samsung Spinpoint T133 - retired to an old machine atm)

    with my board, no problems at all.

    Driver 3.2.1540.75, RaidXpert 3.2.1540.17

    The only think happening from time to time, which i think we've discussed in previous page,is the drive scan during boot, which sometimes takes long (2-3 times has complete hang)


    Latest Gigabyte 790FX-SB750 boards, also have 3.0.1540.59 and 3.0.9/3.0.A Ahci Rom...i guess that's it, no more Raid updates...
    I've spent days to find a working combination of drivers and RaidXpert without a success. I'm not sure that I want to go through the whole process again. Maybe I will give a shot for that driver+RaidXpert combination.

    Googled a few hours and found that the Asus M4A79XTD Evo has RAID Option ROM version 3.0.1540.44.
    I knew it! There IS a newer one for Asus boards too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunfire View Post
    I've spent days to find a working combination of drivers and RaidXpert without a success. I'm not sure that I want to go through the whole process again. Maybe I will give a shot for that driver+RaidXpert combination.

    Googled a few hours and found that the Asus M4A79XTD Evo has RAID Option ROM version 3.0.1540.44.
    I knew it! There IS a newer one for Asus boards too!
    3.0.1540.59 (our BIOS option ROM) is newer than that, have you written the version correctly ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_w View Post
    3.0.1540.59 (our BIOS option ROM) is newer than that, have you written the version correctly ?
    I did, but I thought that our is .39 not .59. False alarm, sorry.
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    Well, spent a few days again to try out different driver combinations without success. Anyway, most of my problems appearing before the operating system loads, so it's not really a driver problem. Still have HDD recognition issues even with the latest 4101 BIOS.

    I give up.
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    It's probably caused by the Samsung drives, then..

    can't think of any other reason, since i've tried many different drives other than samsungs (except my old HD401LJ) and it works just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_w View Post
    It's probably caused by the Samsung drives, then..

    can't think of any other reason, since i've tried many different drives other than samsungs (except my old HD401LJ) and it works just fine.
    I also thinked about that maybe the hard drives are messing with me. A while ago I found firmware updates for them but didn't wanted to upgrade because of the possibility of data loss. Now I did the upgrade but nothing changed. It doesn't matter now...

    ps: The only Samsung drive died at me was a HD401LJ
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