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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanK3r View Post
    yes, wprime are better in XP. Wow, looks, u have nice chip, I can not higher than 3750 MHz hard benchmarks....
    It can be due to the better cooling the Gentle Typhoons I use for benching are monsters) but the chip is crap for 24/7, couldn't even make 3.6GHz and the maximum frequency at which it passes Cinebench 11.5 was around 3.6GHz too with the 24/7 setup. I was even considering buying a second TY-140 fan for the TRUE Spirit as the default one might not be enough. Its memory controler is very good though and the gpu is very good overclocker. I will try the 3d benchmarks on open window with cpu around 3.7GHz. The chip's really strange as it needs a lot of voltage to get high frequencies and is very very hot. I don't have a discrete graphics right now and I think that with the IGU disabled it can probably overclock a bit more but that's about the limit of the platform. I don't belive all the reviews stating their samples are rock solid at 3.8GHz, that's not possible or the just the reviewer's samples are very carefully chosen ones.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miwo View Post
    Hi Flank3r, excellent benchmarks. Just curious, but have you tried using IntelBurnTest/Linpack to test 24/7 stability?

    In my experience with F1A75-V Pro and 3670k, CPU Throttling will occur when one of these conditions is met:
    A) Core Temp temperature exceeds 70C, which is also Tj Max. Asus AI suite reports 45C when Core Temp is about 70C
    B) TDP Exceeds 120W

    I suspect this is what is happening to you that is causing your benches to be slower once you overclock higher. I've tried getting around this by disabling all power options in BIOS.... cycled through all BIOS revisions starting from 0605, to Stilt's custom bioses, to the latest builds available... no luck . I can't seem to prevent throttling from happening... it seems to be built into the chip and can't be turned off. The one app that repeatedly makes my Llano throttle is IntelBurnTest. I know it is only a synthetic load and not indicative of real world apps, but the fact that it makes my Llano throttle bothers the crap out of me. It pretty much means that you can only bench single threaded or lightly multithreaded apps when using a higher OC. I am not even using built in graphics, but I suspect a game like BF3 places a more realistic gaming load than Futuremark apps to test for 2d+3d throttling.

    The highest 24/7 stable result I can get that passes IntelBurnTest/Linpack grilling is 3.6GHz @ 1.5125v. Any higher, it exceeds both TDP (as measured from a Killawatt) and Temperature (I am using a Kuhler 620 in Push/Pull). For what its worth, I think the concept of a system on a single chip is great, but its still not priced right. I am lucky I was able to score the F1A75-V Pro for $60 on Amazon slickdeal, and another $100 for my A6-3670k. FM1 was fun overclocking, but the hard throttling limits preventing 24/7 use is a letdown. Sucks... FM1 was never meant to be a overclocking enthusiast platform. Regardless, I am replacing my daily driver/gaming computer with this until I make this a HTPC. Will stick around with this as my main PC until PD rolls and future incarnations come around
    I've never seen trottling on mine 3870K and I bet that with the IGU at 960+MHz with 1.37V and 1.58V on the CPU at 3700+MHz it is well above 200W.
    Last edited by Stuen4y; 02-21-2012 at 09:22 AM.
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