Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

[flyck]

I think that Matose knows better and if he sad that GTX 680 will launch in february than that it is.
It may be late february close to the end of the month.

Neliz has never let me down (although we don't know eachother ).

Every source is saying april for few months now. February seems like a wannabe from the community and the Nvidia dealers.

I remember a post some time ago from nvidia AIB who were wondering how they should handle the AMD 28lineup push while they didn't had anything from Nvidia....

I'm curious about the first information about Kepler that Nvidia will present before their release (or leaks before their release). Given all the rumours i'm really interested in what they really changed in Kepler to get their DP increase.

[Lanek]

where did the "NV killed their big chip" rumor come from? Kepler should be fine, no need to conjure mystical delay theories and shunted upgrade paths.

Btw, regarding "february launch": http://www.obr-hardware.com/2012/01/...ia-kepler.html

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Huum i read your quote and now i read this one, when have been posted the line from OBR you are quote ? this blog look more as a joke when we read this 2 post in follow.


OBR write ....

GeForce GT 680 will be launched in April. In February, will be launched only GeForce GTX 550. The first cards based on Kepler architecture are GeForce 600 not 700! Who's talking about launching in February, is wrong, this info is based on the old roadmap (from July). According to the last one is launch in April. According the old one, launch was supposed for january/february, now is planned for april.

OBR write ....

You've all probably read on many sites, VGAs with graphics architecture Kepler is postponed to April, May etc (which is semi-official info from NV rep). It's maybe all just BS and Camouflage maneuver. Launch can be literally in a few weeks, all this is just to appease the competitor AMD ... before crushing blow! But only time will tell ... maybe in April, maybe soon ... will see who has right. Look above to newest post ... launch is in APRIL!

[Tha Last Meal]

in February, will be launched only GeForce GTX 550. The first cards based on Kepler architecture are GeForce 600 not 700!

I think he means GTX 650?

[iMacmatician]

Probably. It could also be a non-Ti version of the GTX 550 Ti, but if that's the case then that would seem to imply that any Kepler released for at least a few months around that time would be significantly more powerful than a "GTX 550."

[Lanek]

stop to try find a speculation about release about it, this was just for point, in 1-2 weeks he change the type of accusation, but use the same words.... dont take his words too seriously.

maybe kepler will come tomorrow, maybe it will in february, maybe in march, maybe in April... who know ? Nvidia teams know...

[Gener_AL (UK)]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&daysprune=60

says it all there, theres your 128bit card that arrives in feb / kepler in april
http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/82749/...ing_nvidia.jpg oh hang on http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...yYth2j6_07JVxQ

[GoldenTiger]

Neilz has always been right in my experience so.... I am betting on April.

[spursindonesia]

Well, going by this:



Then Kyle Bennet's comment about the enthusiast chip Kepler coming in June seems more likely, Neliz's comment about the incoming chip in April that's not the Kepler enthusiasts would be hoping for is also correct. It's also collaborated with Charlie's claim that NVidia would have its hand full with orders of low end Keplers for their Ivy Bridge's laptop design wins & Apple's contract, that basically making desktop-highend variants in backburner.

[Leeghoofd]

Slide from november... too little ... too late... bet they will be in Hannover

Who's Neliz anyway ?

[neliz]

Who's Neliz anyway ?

I've tried to get the most unflattering pic off of youtube.

[SKYMTL]

Neilz has always been right in my experience so....

Do some of us have to post all those links with his comments about Cayman and Fermi again?

[neliz]

Do some of us have to post all those links with his comments about Cayman and Fermi again?

The power of selective benchmarking

[SKYMTL]

The power of selective benchmarking

You invested yourself a bit too much in rumors of launches past with some outlandish claims.

Don't worry though, it happens to the best of us. Conflicting info from even the "best" of sources and all that.

[neliz]

You invested yourself a bit too much in rumors of launches past with some outlandish claims.

Don't worry though, it happens to the best of us. Conflicting info from even the "best" of sources and all that.

With GF110 I was wrong with the 128 TMU's and for Cayman I saw some selective benchmarks.. but that's the price you pay for trusting people too much sometimes but hey.. 6950 is still a helluvalot better bitcoiner than a 580 :p

but we can tally that in PM's no need for more thread pollution

[SKYMTL]

but hey.. 6950 is still a helluvalot better bitcoiner than a 580 :p

Well, we'll agree on that at least.

And the fact that Kepler won't launch around the Chinese New Year...

[Lanek]

Well, we'll agree on that at least.

And the fact that Kepler won't launch around the Chinese New Year...

Anyway is there not a gaming convention soon? ( february or March ) the same they have shown Fermi the first time ?

[SKYMTL]

Anyway is there not a gaming convention soon? ( february or March ) the same they have shown Fermi the first time ?

E3 is June
GDC is March
PAX East is April
PAX Prime is August
Quakecon is usually in August too

So plenty of opportunities.

[Lanek]

This was PAX, cant get the name when i was write it. thanks

[solofly]

April, God told me so..

[bamtan2]

it still doesn't make sense to kill the high end kepler chip in favor of something that isn't faster than Tahiti.

mobile, consoles, and professional add up to being way more important than PC gaming to nvidia! if a chip is only good for gaming then what is the good of it to them! they're better off buying something else!

[neliz]

mobile, consoles, and professional add up to being way more important than PC gaming to nvidia! if a chip is only good for gaming then what is the good of it to them! they're better off buying something else!

professional is based on the high-end SKU. both NV's console chips are based on desktop parts (either high-end or performance chips) and even mobile tech is based on desktop tech. Scaling up is much harder than scaling down.

[bamtan2]

professional is based on the high-end SKU. both NV's console chips are based on desktop parts (either high-end or performance chips) and even mobile tech is based on desktop tech. Scaling up is much harder than scaling down.

when I said professional I meant quadro which is mostly NOT the big chip. sorry. the tesla HPC product is all the big chip.

ALMOST all of nvidia's business now does NOT have to do with the big chip. gamers and nerds overstate the significance of the big chip.

[Tenknics]

Charlie weighs in on Kepler

The short story is that Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) will win this round on just about every metric, some more than others. Look for late March or early April availability, with volumes being the major concern at first. GK104 cards seen by SemiAccurate all look very polished and complete, far from rough prototypes or “Puppies“. A2 silicon is now back from TSMC, and that will likely be the production stepping barring any last second hitches. Currently, there aren’t any.

For the doubters, both of the current cards we saw have two DVI plugs on the bottom, one HDMI, and one DP with a half slot cooling grate on one of the two slot end plates. The chip is quite small, and has 8 GDDR5 chips meaning a 256-bit bus/2GB standard, and several other features we can’t talk about yet due to differences between the cards seen. These items won’t change the outcome though, Nvidia wins, handily

Source

For a well known Nvidia hater, this makes me believe its probably true. Thoughts?

[flyck]

Charlie weighs in on Kepler

The short story is that Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) will win this round on just about every metric, some more than others. Look for late March or early April availability, with volumes being the major concern at first. GK104 cards seen by SemiAccurate all look very polished and complete, far from rough prototypes or “Puppies“. A2 silicon is now back from TSMC, and that will likely be the production stepping barring any last second hitches. Currently, there aren’t any.

For the doubters, both of the current cards we saw have two DVI plugs on the bottom, one HDMI, and one DP with a half slot cooling grate on one of the two slot end plates. The chip is quite small, and has 8 GDDR5 chips meaning a 256-bit bus/2GB standard, and several other features we can’t talk about yet due to differences between the cards seen. These items won’t change the outcome though, Nvidia wins, handily

Source

For a well known Nvidia hater, this makes me believe its probably true. Thoughts?

Highlighted some other parts given we don't know what he compares (if he even talks about performance given his sarcastic sentences in other part of the quote).

Just curious what nvidia would need to do to get better performance than the 580 with less bandwidth. (i'm assuming nvidia won't run the ram at 1600MHz so)

[Tim]

If Charlie says that, then Kepler is simply going to be great. Years this guys job has been to utterly troll, flame and hate nVidia. If he is positive, this is going to be great.
That, or all his AMD contacts have been laid off and trying to find favour with the green team again lol.

That 104 is strange though, keeps popping up, the 4 has always been mid range performance hasn't it?