***ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Owners Thread***

[pazza316]

What tuning specifically mate. I am still on 0901 and its working well. Was gonna try one of the newer bioses to see if I could get abit more out of my chip.

If you where trying would you use the one Raja just posted or 1005???

[Raja@ASUS]

The tuning will be for Gen 3.0 cards so I would not worry about that part. Doubt you are going to see additional OC headroom on your setup but you can flash for peace of mind if you wish.

[abeeftec]

very nice clock loud
my 3960X is able to post at 56X but stuck at win logon screen, under water.
do u think it can boot into windows with extreme cooling like phase change?

On my UD7 board I was only able to get 5.0ghz at 1.49 volts. And 4.9 @ 1.48v. Then I tried for 5.1ghz and could not even hit it with 1.64v. Then I hooked up SS and ran it up to 5.5ghz at 1.59 and ran vantage only. I hit 5.6ghz @ 1.64 but only for a few seconds and then I went to sleep for the evening and in the middle of that night my board blew up from condensation. I am fairly sure the reason was a thermal one why there seem to be a limit on liquid and air at 5.0 or 5.1 on these chips even though it doesnt look to be too hot. I have a friend who is running a bunch of boards and chips too and he had the same issues. Not many people were hitting over 5.2Ghz on Liquid. My board constantly posted all the way to the "starting windows" screen but no logo spins once it hits that wall. Funny because if I downed the voltage tp 1.49 it would spin and almost go in. But once I was over 1.52v it was the same lock up at the same spot starting windows.

Now with this R4E and a different CPU I should be able to go higher on phase since it requires less voltage then my other chip did

[hokiealumnus]

On my UD7 board I was only able to get 5.0ghz at 1.49 volts. And 4.9 @ 1.48v. Then I tried for 5.1ghz and could not even hit it with 1.64v. Then I hooked up SS and ran it up to 5.5ghz at 1.59 and ran vantage only. I hit 5.6ghz @ 1.64 but only for a few seconds and then I went to sleep for the evening and in the middle of that night my board blew up from condensation. I am fairly sure the reason was a thermal one why there seem to be a limit on liquid and air at 5.0 or 5.1 on these chips even though it doesnt look to be too hot. I have a friend who is running a bunch of boards and chips too and he had the same issues. Not many people were hitting over 5.2Ghz on Liquid. My board constantly posted all the way to the "starting windows" screen but no logo spins once it hits that wall. Funny because if I downed the voltage tp 1.49 it would spin and almost go in. But once I was over 1.52v it was the same lock up at the same spot starting windows.

Now with this R4E and a different CPU I should be able to go higher on phase since it requires less voltage then my other chip did

Same problem here - I have a brick wall at 5.1 on water. It will run everything (WP1024M, all 3D) at 5.08/5.09, but once it ticks to 5.1 or above it crashes. Haven't had the chance to take it cold yet but hopefully it will give up some more under more extreme conditions.

[Raja@ASUS]

At those frequencies you will be pulling a shed-load of current, I'd make a crude guess at peaks in excess of 25amps from EPS 12V under full load (maybe more as processor temps increase). It's not surprising you can't quite find full stability.

[pazza316]

Cheers Mate. I will flash the other bios to 1005 and try that first. Then this new one after.

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

On my UD7 board I was only able to get 5.0ghz at 1.49 volts. And 4.9 @ 1.48v. Then I tried for 5.1ghz and could not even hit it with 1.64v. Then I hooked up SS and ran it up to 5.5ghz at 1.59 and ran vantage only. I hit 5.6ghz @ 1.64 but only for a few seconds and then I went to sleep for the evening and in the middle of that night my board blew up from condensation. I am fairly sure the reason was a thermal one why there seem to be a limit on liquid and air at 5.0 or 5.1 on these chips even though it doesnt look to be too hot. I have a friend who is running a bunch of boards and chips too and he had the same issues. Not many people were hitting over 5.2Ghz on Liquid. My board constantly posted all the way to the "starting windows" screen but no logo spins once it hits that wall. Funny because if I downed the voltage tp 1.49 it would spin and almost go in. But once I was over 1.52v it was the same lock up at the same spot starting windows.

Now with this R4E and a different CPU I should be able to go higher on phase since it requires less voltage then my other chip did

so let me get this straight, you left the ss hooked up and running after you hit 5.6 and then went to sleep and then your UD7 blew up from condensation?

[s4pphire]

For some reason, the only bios with stable performance is 06 for me, all others give me memory issues. Can't even boot half of the time with newer versions even when only running 16gb whereas 06 is perfectly stable while running 32gb at 2100-2200. 1005 hangs on code 67 (even after clearing CMOS). I've pretty much tried everything from reseating the CPU multiple times, changing memory slots, unplugging USB devices and so on.

I don't think it's related to the IMC either considering that it's able to run 32gb stable at stock VCCSA until going above 2000..

Not that I desperately want to upgrade the bios, but being able to would be nice. Any ideas?

[owikh84]

For some reason, the only bios with stable performance is 06 for me, all others give me memory issues. Can't even boot half of the time with newer versions even when only running 16gb whereas 06 is perfectly stable while running 32gb at 2100-2200. 1005 hangs on code 67 (even after clearing CMOS). I've pretty much tried everything from reseating the CPU multiple times, changing memory slots, unplugging USB devices and so on.

I don't think it's related to the IMC either considering that it's able to run 32gb stable at stock VCCSA until going above 2000..

Not that I desperately want to upgrade the bios, but being able to would be nice. Any ideas?

i had code 67 overcame by switching LN2 jumper to disabled. Note that default is set to enabled, the manual illustrated wrongly.

[Raja@ASUS]

For some reason, the only bios with stable performance is 06 for me, all others give me memory issues. Can't even boot half of the time with newer versions even when only running 16gb whereas 06 is perfectly stable while running 32gb at 2100-2200. 1005 hangs on code 67 (even after clearing CMOS). I've pretty much tried everything from reseating the CPU multiple times, changing memory slots, unplugging USB devices and so on.

I don't think it's related to the IMC either considering that it's able to run 32gb stable at stock VCCSA until going above 2000..

Not that I desperately want to upgrade the bios, but being able to would be nice. Any ideas?

As a long shot, try toggling between PCIe gen 2 and gen 3 modes and see if that changes POST behaviour.

-Raja

[s4pphire]

i had code 67 overcame by switching LN2 jumper to disabled. Note that default is set to enabled, the manual illustrated wrongly.

Thanks but unfortunately I already tried that, didn't seem to help.

As a long shot, try toggling between PCIe gen 2 and gen 3 modes and see if that changes POST behaviour.

-Raja

Thanks, will give that a shot in the next couple of days.

[keineAhnung]

hello that is with you so
So my boot time to the beep
So switch on the power supply (standby)
33.2 sec
Normally off completely
39.2 sec

also did you ever?

[abeeftec]

so let me get this straight, you left the ss hooked up and running after you hit 5.6 and then went to sleep and then your UD7 blew up from condensation?

Nah, But sort of like that. I was awake when it happened at about 1am. It was running when it happened. I was watching the last episode of Dexter when it made a noise like an electrical sounding ffumph. I like an idiot, restarted it and kept watching dexter. Then it happened a second time and thats when I waited and took the chiller off and found the water everywhere.

About a year ago I was using the Xpressar Thermaltake case which has a small Chiller in it. Really nice Xaser Case too. Anyway, I thought it was a 24/7 case but because I leave my PC on all the time It was about 3 and one half days later it blew up my first P67 Board and my 2600k. That was a year ago.

SO, I bought this chiller and figured I would take all precautions and set it up for 24/7 usage. Well, 3 and a half days into it, SAME THING!
I had set it up the way the Cooler express manual said to. Then after I contacted Cooler Express and asked them what the deal was. I even sent them pictures! And they told me, Well, You can read my email and their response. Their response is first....

Hello,

Noted your email and our engineer reply you as below:

Congratulations to you on overclock skill with new X79 chipset and a 3930K, which reach 5.6ghz.
But please be attention: to run it in long hours you must enhance on temperature maintainance, and the range of temperature maintaining to motherboard must enlarged, and must let in the air on little space, the surrounding of socket
must closely blocked up with available temperature maintained material.
Try more times then you will have experience to know how to deal with it.


Regards,


=====Original Message=====
寄件者:ml@homeimages.net;
收件者:coolerexpress@seed.net.tw;
日期:Mon Dec 05 16:29:34 CST 2011
主旨:RE: registration of warranty
Hello,
After using it for 3 days. And following all instructions to the letter. The system, while running at -50c at stock voltage and speed(I had overclocked during the day and this was the night when I wind down )
It saturated the motherboard, CPU and Socket. I used Black electrical tape and it was absolutely covering everything.
Then I used the eraser and then I used the foam pads. I was able to clock to an impressive 5.6ghz with the new X79 chipset and a 3930k but then it made a ffffumph sound and the screen locked upand I tried to restart.
It went into a loop which I assumed was a cold bug. So I restarted again and it said I had a corrupt Bios. The board I have uses a backup bios to fix the primary one and it tried.
But then I turned it off after it updated and waited an hour. I unhooked the Nozzle and pulled all my components off.
The socket still got loaded with water. I believe there is no way to use this machine 24/7. There is no way to stop the condensation after 3 or 4 days of usage.
The back of the board was loaded up with water too. All foam pads were dripping and water ran out of the socket. I cannot see how its even possible that water got into the socket the way I installed it.
My question is….

Do you know anyone who is running these 24/7? Or are people using these only for special benching and then clean up once done and completely install everything again before another session?
Thanks

So basically his answer was... Maybe you get good once you blow a few more boards up

My resolution.... No more running the chiller 24/7

I dont blame those guys at all. Awesome product and worth the money you pay for them. But I would hope they would change their manual and put in some instructions because on their site they say they can be used 24/7. Though I dont know anyone who does it.

[abeeftec]

At those frequencies you will be pulling a shed-load of current, I'd make a crude guess at peaks in excess of 25amps from EPS 12V under full load (maybe more as processor temps increase). It's not surprising you can't quite find full stability.

This must be why no voltage over 1.49 seems to get it stable. Do you think its spiking without seeing it? Because once on phase it handled even lower voltage.

On another note...

A buddy of mine and I are both trying to hit the 166 Blck. He has actually been able to get through post on his UD5 and freezes going into windows. I have the R4E and I tried it once and got 00 code no post at all.
So, I went looking through the Bios to see what auto sets and notices that it sets the CPU I/O to -63 and the CPU I/O Drive strength to -63 as well. Could this be hindering me?

I say this because when I first set the preset Normal OC profile it had the PLL all the way down to 1.35 and it would not boot. So I reset and went back into the Bios looking around and put that setting back to 1.80 and booted with that being the only change from the OC normal Profile.

Any reason for Asus making these Auto changes in Skews when a 166 strap is used? I cant seem to find anything related to what these settings actually Skew!

[Carrera997]

Need your help here... Coming from an RE III/980x to to the RIVE/3960x. Had everything up and running for 2 days. No over clocking just playing some Bf3. Wanted to make some changes before I started to OC so I reinstalled win 7. Now my machine is stuck on the A2 post code. I read back through this thread and someone mentions it's the video initialization. I looked the code up and it says IDE Detect. Also read that others had their post taking along time because of this post code. Well, I can't get past this post code now. 15 minutes and it is still hung. Any ideas? Should I get a new board? Is it my video cards (3 x 480s). Everything is on water.

Thanks in advance for your help!

[D749]

My R4E is en route and I have a question after consulting the manual.

If I have (2) x16 video cards and (1) OCZ RevoDrive (PCIE SSD) will either of the following configurations work?

(1) PCIE1 x16, PCIE2 x8, PCIE4 x16
(2) PCIE1 x16, PCIE4 x16, PCIE6 x8

Thanks.

[Raja@ASUS]

Need your help here... Coming from an RE III/980x to to the RIVE/3960x. Had everything up and running for 2 days. No over clocking just playing some Bf3. Wanted to make some changes before I started to OC so I reinstalled win 7. Now my machine is stuck on the A2 post code. I read back through this thread and someone mentions it's the video initialization. I looked the code up and it says IDE Detect. Also read that others had their post taking along time because of this post code. Well, I can't get past this post code now. 15 minutes and it is still hung. Any ideas? Should I get a new board? Is it my video cards (3 x 480s). Everything is on water.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Might need to clear CMOS and start again. Try moving the GPUs around or running only one to see if the board will POST (check they are all seated properly and have power). Are you using DVI or HDMI output?

-Raja

[Raja@ASUS]

My R4E is en route and I have a question after consulting the manual.

If I have (2) x16 video cards and (1) OCZ RevoDrive (PCIE SSD) will either of the following configurations work?

(1) PCIE1 x16, PCIE2 x8, PCIE4 x16
(2) PCIE1 x16, PCIE4 x16, PCIE6 x8

Thanks.

When your board arrives, you can enter UEFI and use PCIE lane simulator to find out lane allocation in various scenarios.

[Raja@ASUS]

This must be why no voltage over 1.49 seems to get it stable. Do you think its spiking without seeing it? Because once on phase it handled even lower voltage.

On another note...

A buddy of mine and I are both trying to hit the 166 Blck. He has actually been able to get through post on his UD5 and freezes going into windows. I have the R4E and I tried it once and got 00 code no post at all.
So, I went looking through the Bios to see what auto sets and notices that it sets the CPU I/O to -63 and the CPU I/O Drive strength to -63 as well. Could this be hindering me?

I say this because when I first set the preset Normal OC profile it had the PLL all the way down to 1.35 and it would not boot. So I reset and went back into the Bios looking around and put that setting back to 1.80 and booted with that being the only change from the OC normal Profile.

Any reason for Asus making these Auto changes in Skews when a 166 strap is used? I cant seem to find anything related to what these settings actually Skew!

Doubt those settings are hindering you, we auto-set for you to make it easy as possible. Some CPUs will not POST at 166 BCLK and there's not much you can do about that. You can try setting 155 BCLK and starting from there.

[s4pphire]

As a long shot, try toggling between PCIe gen 2 and gen 3 modes and see if that changes POST behaviour.

-Raja

Turns out it was a completely unrelated issue in the end, after I used a different drive to flash the bios, everything worked flawlessly. Almost like searching for your keys and hours later finding them in the most obvious spot..

[Carrera997]

Might need to clear CMOS and start again. Try moving the GPUs around or running only one to see if the board will POST (check they are all seated properly and have power). Are you using DVI or HDMI output?

-Raja

Turns out the first PCIE slot went bad. Was able to find a new board locally so I should be back in business this afternoon.

Thanks

[Boulard83]

Im testing bios 1005. Seems stable as for now with same 4.2ghz 24/7 settings.

[D749]

When your board arrives, you can enter UEFI and use PCIE lane simulator to find out lane allocation in various scenarios.

Thank you. However, I provided a specific scenario. Could you please answer the question?

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

When your board arrives, you can enter UEFI and use PCIE lane simulator to find out lane allocation in various scenarios.

yet another thing I had no idea about, almost three weeks and still discovering new things

[Eldonko]

Added BIOS 0002B to OP