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    new diamond from FlanK3r - AMD FX-8120 first part

    It has been more than a week since we had reviews new generation of processors. The performance has known me for some time before the reviews and I have a few days before the launch of the 8120 FX had at home. Processor I underwent standard testing methodology, which prevails more theoretical benchmarks in speed when I still managed to add a practical and decompressing video conversion program Handbrake. Therefore, take this part but rather a preview of what will come later to test 8150th flagship FX For it is the focus on practical things and some ideas of your suggestions in private messages definitely take over. Just ahead of you, please be patient, the FX is not the only thing all day on my work:-D ....

    Processor FX 8120 I was surprised by its 95W versions. Let's look at a few facts about the processor FX-8120 95W:

    stock frequency: 3100 MHz
    frequency with TurboCore 2.0: from 3400 MHz up to 4000 MHz
    frequency HT: 2600 MHz
    frequency CPU-NB: 2200 MHz
    dualchannel support RAM up to 1866 MHz DDR3



    At idle, however, the processor moves only on the frequency 1400 MHz with voltages below 1V, more precisely, 0.87V. As you can see, processor temperature range only 31 C [i] (cooled by Noctua NH-D14) [/ i]

    If the processor is rated at 3100 MHz clock, the tension is also very low and only 1.128V:!: When Turbo is at 3400 MHz still grow at low voltage 1.25V, the maximum turbo at 4000 MHz, it is still acceptable 1.39V.

    Turbo is jumping up and down from the idle states, through the basic beat up both states of Turbo, the same is true for the voltage and processor in fact is almost all in full "peace". During the work is the most common frequency 1400 MHz to 3100 MHz, the load is held between 3100 MHz to 3400 MHz. The second turbo only really flies up occasionally. Even if we look at the status of hwinfo,the software from there are not still too smart.


    How and what I tested?
    Mezi testy jsem zařadil: superpí 1M, Hyperpi 32M, MaxxPi 4M, MaxxMem, MaxxFlops, AIDA Queen test, AIDA Hash, AIDA memory benchmark, Geekbench, Fritzchess benchmark, wprime 32M a 1024M, y-cruncher, winrar, 7-zip komprese/dekomprese, editing photos from car-salon action to *.jpg and 1024x768 resolution in Zoner Photo Studio,

    rendering in Cinebench R10, Cinebench R11.5 and POV-RAY 3.7, work with the video files using the x264 benchmark 3.0 and 4.0, encoding the AVP trailer in AVS converter,

    encoding of video "Inside Job" from *. avi to DVD using ConvertXtoDVD,

    In Media Espresso the same movie to mp4.DivX 640x480.

    Next 3D Mark Vantage (CPU skóre) megatasking = when I was in the background as the first benchmark is winrar and run the CINEBENCH R11.5 and MaxxPi 64M. In the results, however, counting only CINEBENCH R11.5 and finished calculation in MaxxPI (winrar is still running in the background).
    With FX I tested also Handbrake and decompression in practice. With Thuban I have still not finish all benchmarks and in this last two test I compared it only with i7-2600k at 3.8 GHz.
    I've included the test results with AMD x4 980 BE AMD x6 1100T BE, Intel Core i7-2600K (overclocked to 3800 MHz turbo "off"). FX 8120 processor and x4 980 BE was tested on top motherboard ASUS Crosshair Formula V

    I tested in old Windows 7 without SP1

    And now first look at the results with the default setting of the FX-8120 (I set the RAM 1866 MHz, since it's official native support for FX processors, why it is unnecessary to degrade some percentage of it).

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    Winrar benchmark
    -here's excellent result for their IMC and the improved access to RAM



    wprime 32M, superpí 1M and Hyperpi 32M
    -less is better, the old benchmark superpi and replacement for all threads Hyperpí definitely does not quite fit with FX....


    geekbench, fritzchess benchmark and cinebench R10
    -diagnostic multithreaded benchmarks, calculating chess moves and rendering looks better for FX


    AVS video encoding, y-cruncher result, wprime 1024M and rendering in POV-RAY
    -Although AVS loads more fiber, but failed to efficiently. Y-Cruncher is the exact opposite-it is a very demanding calculation, wprime 1024M is also demanding on the processor and the same can be said for rendering in POV-Ray. Everything is in seconds, so less time is better. Here the total FX hold, it succeeds best in POV-Ray.
    :!: in this graph I had wrong 2600k with FX 8120... :!:


    practice work with Zoner Photo studio, MaxxPi
    -MaxxPi can effectively load cores, Zoner is quite commonly used photo-graphic editor. Zoner in practice seems surprisingly better at AMD CPUs


    AIDA benchmarks and MaxFlops and MaxMem
    - AIDA benchmarks used more for fun, and at MaxFlops maxmem is a theoretical throughput, more is better.


    x264 video encoding and 7-zip compression/decompression
    -x264 benchmark - I used no function AVX and XOP without. x264 is more powerful domain of FX processors even if the FX 8120 at the fundamental frequency. Compression and decompression in 7-zip is also a very good level.


    winrar in practice, handbrake encoding and mediaespresso encoding, megatasking nr1
    -handbrake and FX is the ideal combination as it would look like with the FX everywhere, practical archive decompression experienced such good growth, there is FX 8120 very close to the Sandy Bridge 2600K at 3800 MHz! In megatasking however literally crushes x4 980 BE processor and not so far away from i7 2600 k.


    Cinebench R11.5 and megatasking nr2 in R11.5
    - again surprised megatasking (more is better) in R11.5.



    The first part of minireviews is over, I wanted to please you even more simulations across Specview CAD applications, unfortunately, long after the test I just ran the table with no results: (...


    What I stressed? The clear benefit is better to work with RAM-decompression practical (and probably even compression) driven competition, practical encoding in Handbrake is excelent, and we are convinced that increased megatasking (1100T I have not tested it yet), since it is quite close to the core i7 2600 k at 3.8 GHz. The mistake is definitely the weaker performance of single thread and skipping in the modules, it can make a difference around 5%. Here, perhaps in the future AMD will work, because there is a fundamental stumbling block between mediocrity / and tarnish the good product. Had the increased performance of one core course would be increased by a significant proportion also multithread and FX would have looked better. Even though I can not say that this is a downright bad product. Somehow fit into today's average bid, and who wants to buy it, buy it.
    Like most of all I see is this offer FX-8120, which, as you will see next time, offers a very nice OC potential and still acceptable price and consumption. I can not forget the motherboard ASUS Crosshair Formula V, which is whether indeed the FX processors tuned and witness the fact that it was in 80% of all reviews used just her.


    PS:srry for english, it was quickly from translator. Later we will see OC and OC benchmarks with FX 8120 (next week). And in next month very,very interesting review in practice applications with FX 8150(stock and OC setings) compared to 2600K and 1100T OC
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    good Thread,

    diff between this http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-fx-8150/t5.png and your test http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2258/aidamemory.jpg is not much
    also there is problem with L1 , hardware issue ?
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    Good job FLanK3r.

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    interesting wait for oc test
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    thx guys. OC with this 8120 is no secret ... 4840 MHz. More interesting will be practice tests (example in this minireview is it only Handbrake, practice decompression in winrar, Mediaespresso and Zoner Photo studio)
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    Flank man, great thread!

    One question, are you going to do benchmarks with Photoshop CS5 & Illustrator CS5?
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    yes, I will do it (photoshop is one form the bigest increase for FX)
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    How are the "real" temps Flanker at 4.8Ghz prime95 ? I'm getting close to and over 90°C on the 8150...(coretemp with 14°C offset) with the FX cooling kit at full blast...
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    about 65 C at Coretemp...But this is not my main cooler, Noctua NHD14 is "poor" comparsion with my Xigmatek 1283DK+Ultra Kaze (and new one A70+2x UK 3000rpm)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanK3r View Post
    yes, I will do it (photoshop is one form the bigest increase for FX)
    I like how more reviews used older version of CS and it showed FX doing bad..... Glad Tom used newer one.
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    here is in CS4...still better than 1100T
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    great thread, flanker. i work with graphics, (and a bit of video, rendering) and see there are some improvements. I'd love test IMC with newer better memories :p

    maybe we compete each other on aircooling? hehe. Well I might look for WC setup if it makes large difference for 8120 vs air.
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    Nice thread. Any chance of running newest build of y-cruncher 50mil digits? Stock and OCed. That would be great. If you could post result report txt file content, i would appreciate

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    Looks like I will need to buy CS5 to get what I want out of FX.
    It's too bad I'm a supporter of Open Source software like GIMP (that runs well on thuban) and would like to save my money...

    However FlanK3r's CPU is pushing 80c under load...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
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    It's too bad I'm a supporter of Open Source software like GIMP (that runs well on thuban) and would like to save my money...

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    I work with gimp as well, and am quite badly disappointed with it, as most of the scripts and basic gimp features are archaic single threaded and not even supporting GPU acceleration to display images fluidly. But as Photoshop is ridiculously overpriced that I even refuse to pirate it, I stick with open GIMP. So I think BD would be really bad in GIMP.

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    Usually I use Zoner photo studio, some versions are free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanK3r View Post
    Usually I use Zoner photo studio, some versions are free.
    yeah, but I have been using gimp since it was infant, so I got used to it, and it is Open Source. Just sad they cannot develop modern engine recognising recent hardware. Too bad AMD and intel don't pay much attention to such open source projects

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    Today I show us OC results. For FX is actually LINX bad choice for testing stability....


    So....the right choice is PRIME. I had not much time this days, so 20 minutes was OK for this minireview. OC of FX was more than 1700 MHz from default clock!!!
    This is really impressive OC increase
    test platform:
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    FX 8120 95W
    Noctua NHD14
    2x 2GB Gskill RipjawsX 2133 MHz
    HD4870
    AX1200W

    So, 4840 MHz with 1.5V in load, CPU was a bit warm, but Noctua still forces the effort to successfully cooled. ....CPU-NB set at decent 2420 MHz and RAM 2152 MHz with timings 8-9-8.
    For comparison, I used to chart a decently overclocked Core i7-2600K at 3800 MHz, 1600 MHz RAM with 8-9-8 and finally AMD X6 1100T clocked at 4209 MHz and uncore anything over 2800 MHz. Ram, I set it at 1866 MHz at 8-9-8.
    AIDA memory test


    superpi, hyperpi a wprime
    -lower is better


    Cinebench R10, Geekbench a Fritczhess
    more is better


    POV RAY, y-crucnher a wprime1024M
    -lower is better


    Maxmem, CPU hash, CPU queen
    -more is better


    Zoner photo studio and MaxxPi
    -lower is better, in Zoner dominated Thuban, FX 2nd. In MaxxPI is situation in favor for FX.


    7-zip and x264 encoding
    -for all CPUs we can see great results here


    mediaespresso, MaxxPI megatasking and practical encoding in Handbrake a practical decompression
    -lower is better


    Megatasking in R11.5 and Cinebench R11.5
    -more is better


    Winrar benchmark
    -... needless words


    After overclocking, we can see that neither Thuban overclocked enough to overclocked FX. Sometimes the differences are smaller (except superpi and wprime), sometimes larger. It might sound ridiculous, but significantly overclocked FX can sometimes compete decently OC Sandy Bridge 2600K.

    2400 MHz RAM very easy...



    Cinebench at 4940 MHz



    Superpi 32M,quickly



    Superpí 1M over 5150 MHz (again no much tweaked)



    validation with all cores


    This is end of first part, more theoretical benchmarks....In next month Il testing 8150 FX in real aplicatons as example:
    3DsMax 2011
    Adobe Photoshop 5
    Zoner Photo Studio 12
    Cinebench R11.5
    POV RAY
    Handbrake
    TMPGenc
    Specview
    etc...
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    decently OC'ed 2600K at 3800Ghz (hope that's a typo, but looking at the SB score I don't think it's over 4.5 :p ) For reference a 2600K at 4.5 scores 7.88 there. And with rams at 1600mhz ? Sorry mate run it at 1866/2133Mhz ram speed for a fair comparison.
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    Why is the 2600K running at the stock turbo frequency?
    I say retest it at 4.6-4.8, where 99% of CPUs are safe on air...you are skewing results to make it look like FX is winning when truth is, a lot of guys here run their 2500 / 2600K's at 4.8 and above, even above 5.0 on water.

    Then you have the Thuban with 1866 ram while FX gets 2152, Intel at only 1600 (why? They do 2133 easy, your kit is designed for it at 2133 8-9-8) ...and Thuban will do 2000+ easy.

    You pushed your FX chip to the limit, pushed the Thuban near its limit 24/7, however if you'd do the same with the 2600K you'd be in 4.8-5.0 land.
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    Damn, and I thought that Flanker was emphasising BD performance of all. So if that's the case then who cares how 2600k is clocked? I suppose we know how 2600k performs from all around the world, even grandmothers of the world have those CPUs, yet only handful of people have BD chips and are willing to do some testing. So I would suggest to shut up and just check how BD is performing and be thankful that someone with not much free time is running those tests to show you guys what is what with BD. He picked whatever he had at home and build those systems side by side to test it for you.
    If so you want, just get all those cpus and motherboards and rams yourself and run those tests all you want :/
    A bit of appreciation and understanding for other people please.
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    Ussually good Thubans are at the limit at 4200 MHz, no more (24/7). I had no time 2600k for benchmarking after higher OC ...This is 3800MHz in all scenarios-single thread, multithread. In this result is as interest (later with FX-8150 full review Il testing it, my 2600K ended about 4900 MHz).Still, the main point is to show FX OC is better than Thuban OC in modern benchmarks or practice aplications
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanK3r View Post
    Ussually good Thubans are at the limit at 4200 MHz, no more (24/7). I had no time 2600k for benchmarking after higher OC ...This is 3800MHz in all scenarios-single thread, multithread. In this result is as interest (later with FX-8150 full review Il testing it, my 2600K ended about 4900 MHz)
    Flanker you don't need to explain yourself. You are running those tests just for fun. if some people don't appreciate it, then , oh well, tough.
    Good job by the way

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    @Muziqaz Then he better leave out the 2600K (as it runs like that stock on all Asus boards : they have a turbo feature that clocks all cores up to 3.8 all the time,not following Intel specs ) This if he only wants to compare AMD CPUs.

    I have deep respect for his testing, but this outcome is not correct as not all forum members will read the text and just look at the graphs...

    Ps : I suggest you too to show a bit more appreciation and understanding regarding honest input iso telling others how to behave on a forum..
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanK3r View Post
    Today I show us OC results. For FX is actually LINX bad choice for testing stability....


    So....the right choice is PRIME. I had not much time this days, so 20 minutes was OK for this minireview.
    Hmm...so because you can't run LinX correctly (at all) it's a bad choice for testing stability?
    That no load scenario is a bug...I've had it on Thuban as well.
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