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    Dang...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechromancer View Post
    Dang...
    Could be a good thing, force MS hand to issue a patch for Bulldozer!
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    If true, this would cement bd as the worst cpu ever, i thought intels p4 would hold that title for a long time.

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    Wow, come on... Hope that's pure luck, or easily hotfixable.
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    this has got to be the worst possible way to show efficiency.
    first you dont go with the biggest most power hungry motherboards if you want an efficient system
    second you dont simply add up times together. some benchmarks took a few minutes, other took a portion of a second. horrible weighting factor and right there shows they are about as dumb as you can get.
    third, you show efficiency per app since there are multiple ways to do stuff, and if you really care about power consumption, you pick the app and method that does it best for you.
    and last, you might turn off turbo so that you loose a little bit of performance, but gain a huge power return of power savings.

    we all knew that these things are power hungry when pushed hard, this is just trying to use shock value to get more hits rather than a proper test.
    btw for a quick reference, i was able to increase efficiency on thuban by over 30% by simply dropping the voltage from 1.3 to ~1.1v at stock clocks, and thats with a chip already built around efficiency.
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    That contradicts with many other test results like:
    http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/cpu/am.../index.php?p=7
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Wow, come on... Hope that's pure luck, or easily hotfixable.
    This error was common with the original Phenom as well. If it wasn't a hot topic then, I don't see why it should be now other than to let people complain more about BD. Shogun players might have a legitimate beef.
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