Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
I am wondering if that 10% increase comes from a 1.25% increase in performance over each thread (The way AMD has been marketing, I wouldn't doubt it at all)

AMD needs a 45-50% gain to compete with intel in single thread, at the same clock scaling and unless Intel designs Netburst 2 it will only get worse.
The IPC vs core speed gap went from 25% and 15% clocks to 50% and 5% clocks...not what I was expecting at least.

I spoke so long about how competitive STARS is from a performance per mm2 perspective vs Nehalem...and to be honest, it is also very competitive on a performance per watt perspective as well. They should have shrunk X6, adopted the tweaked and refined Llano "STARS" core with it's 5% IPC boost, doubled the L2 cache (to give 1MB per core), doubled L3 to 12MB...refined memory controller like they did with BD...increased core speed to 3.7/3.9 Turbo/4.2 ST Turbo or so.

That would be a competitive CPU, would it not?

Completely agree. I said they should have come with something like "Phenom II X8", but you are right, even a Stars X6 at 32nm HKMG, 3.6/4.2Ghz with improved Memory Controller would be nicer than this, and I would buy it.

In this scenario I'm waiting for i7-3820 to decide between that and 2600K...