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  1. 10-11-2011, 07:06 PM #1
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    How is it possible that my not-to-special laptop can pull better bench numbers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head View Post
    How is it possible that my not-to-special laptop can pull better SuperPi 1M times...
    Because superpi is virtually worthless anyway. You know this. This has been beaten to death ad nauseum so many times you have to know this

    But everything else? Meh

    I'm still trying to make sense of what I'm seeing here, and what Dave said. I just don't get it, I've got to be missing something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Because superpi is virtually worthless anyway. You know this. This has been beaten to death ad nauseum so many times you have to know this

    But everything else? Meh

    I'm still trying to make sense of what I'm seeing here, and what Dave said. I just don't get it, I've got to be missing something.
    Fixed it, happy now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head View Post
    Fixed it, happy now?


    You still rocking an Opty 165? Those were good chips. What clock speed?
    What is your laptop running by the way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post


    You still rocking an Opty 165? Those were good chips. What clock speed?
    What is your laptop running by the way?
    Opty is a CCBBE @ 2.7GHz @ stock volts. The magical 300x9 Seems to wall shortly above that, and won't get stable no matter how much voltage I crank into it. System still does basically everything I want it to.

    Laptop has a lower-end i7, don't know exactly what it is. It was a sub $750 computer. Needed something for school so I wouldn't have to lug my desktop around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head View Post
    Opty is a CCBBE @ 2.7GHz @ stock volts. The magical 300x9 Seems to wall shortly above that, and won't get stable no matter how much voltage I crank into it. System still does basically everything I want it to.

    Laptop has a lower-end i7, don't know exactly what it is. It was a sub $750 computer. Needed something for school so I wouldn't have to lug my desktop around.
    I had a CCBBE too. With a crappy IHS mount so I ended up delidding it. Nervewracking Mine did 2.8GHz (312x9) at stock volts (measured via DMM, BIOS was set slightly higher). I booted and ran some programs at 3GHz with 0.15v bump but my memory was too slow and I could never get it fully stable. Pretty sure it was capable of 24/7 3 GHz if I had good memory to pair up with it, or at least someone who knew better what they were doing Did a 3.15GHz suicide run, got in Windows, and it gave a BSOD right after loading the desktop lol.

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    Hi,
    here you have in Italian review

    Link: http://www.techstation.it/hardware/a...e/introduzione

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    Surprisingly hungry for watts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -=DVS=- View Post
    Surprisingly hungry for watts.
    Yet the temps are lower than Intel, strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stukov View Post
    Yet the temps are lower than Intel, strange.
    cause coretemp seems to be calibrated just like thuban. no way minimum temp is 14c, yet thats exactly what we see with current generation

    and if thats the case then 71c load is well past the thermal limit (from the ozeros review).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stukov View Post
    Yet the temps are lower than Intel, strange.
    Contact surface I'd guess^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stukov View Post
    Yet the temps are lower than Intel, strange.
    Contact surface I'd guess^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stukov View Post
    Yet the temps are lower than Intel, strange.
    No -- not strange, how many temperature reports do you see from AMD processors at IDLE that are below room temperature? AMD does not provide calibration data for their ODTS, and software has to make it's best 'guess'. The temps are never accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I'm still trying to make sense of what I'm seeing here, and what Dave said. I just don't get it, I've got to be missing something.
    yeah, you are. you missed it being delayed 10+ times over 4 years. you missed the GF foundry being the worst at every measure. you missed the CEO getting fired. you missed every leaked benchmark that showed bulldozer sucking.

    yes, people missed a lot. maybe this is what you should read next: "in the face of clear evidence to suggest to the contrary, why do some people remain so optimistic about the future?" http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-1...c-reality.html
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    So by 2013 when Intel will launch Haswell, AMD will be back at Phenom II level IPC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKM View Post
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    So by 2013 when Intel will launch Haswell, AMD will be back at Phenom II level IPC.
    That looks very dissapointing if you take Moore's Law into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamtan2 View Post
    yes, people missed a lot. maybe this is what you should read next: "in the face of clear evidence to suggest to the contrary, why do some people remain so optimistic about the future?" http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-1...c-reality.html
    I've got news for you: rumor and speculation don't rise to the level of "clear evidence". Maybe this is what YOU should read next...
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