AMD Zambezi news, info, fans !

[m411b]

I'll stick with my C2 955 till Q1 2012 and see if a new stepping for Zambezi is release, as will be according to that article. I kinda figured they would do this with Zambezi like with Phenom. If nothing worth getting is released I'll officially move to Intel!

[xsecret]

... and real availability is mid October.

That's a good question. Real availability is still totally unknown, even by big e-tailers. I heard everything between "mass availability at day 1" to "Yields are bad. Don't expect big quantities until next stepping. January '12 at best.".

[undone]

What 'The Source' said (google translated)

new figures have just been given and it appears to be 6.6% are (output / production, says nothing about sales!). The old AM3 Phenom accounts for 3.7% share. Llano 34% of which 30% goes to EMEA, 30% to China and the rest is distributed among the rest of the world.

http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...s/1412361/last

Seems AM3+ FX Series have 6.6% of total shipment quantity, the old phenom have 3.7% and Llano for 34% at the meanwhile.


BTW maybe it's a positive situation that 45nm phenom EOL much earlier than expected, which means the 32nm production catch up with the mature-enough 45nm.

[informal]

Well since it slipped from mid June to mid September/October then it's normal that output is down from ~10% to projected 6.6%. This will in turn be 2x of what Phenom II will amount for,pretty decent quantities for Q4.

[duron]

...so did anyone pre-order yet?

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/11064/

[Nintendork]

No until i see the difference in games between FX-8000/6000/4000.

[EniGmA1987]

...so did anyone pre-order yet?

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/11064/

Thats the same thing that has been going around for quite a while now

[undone]

...so did anyone pre-order yet?

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/11064/

Old rumor, but your post remind me of something.
Such those weird spec like 8130p have been denied from latest roadmap, but iirc some immature bios continuously recognized the newer spec like 8150 to those weird spec. Maybe those weren't just rumor, but ever 'existing' part, even more weird is that old spec comes with older stepping, it's obvious that they're not for retail, just ES and have done tests. Why those early internal samples have full name, any necessity? Nowaday the newer roadmap show not only 8150, even some more new spec like 4170, which has 4.2Ghz stock, this even faster than 4120 which appeared in chart that leaked in July:



Seems to me like they're respinning just for frequency but not only for repairing chips bug(if there's any), when finish a spin they rename those chips(any necessity?), but bios are old and do some wrong spec recognition.



Considering those slides are NDA tighted and leaked late, presume the latest name have been changed internally for a while but still behind the door, when final shipping those known spec will no longer available.

[Lightman]

October 13 ?

The hunt for Red October!

[haylui]

bro take a look at this
http://chinese.vr-zone.com/index.php...8120-09092011/

fx8120 benchmark by VR-ZONE

[informal]

bro take a look at this
http://chinese.vr-zone.com/index.php...8120-09092011/

fx8120 benchmark by VR-ZONE

That poor fx8120 is decently slower than 1100T. In C10 it is ~7% slower than 3.3Ghz X6,in C11.5 ~12% slower than 3.3Ghz X6 and in wprime 2.24x slower. Does anyone believe AMD will launch FX chip that can't even beat 2 years old X4 let alone X6?

[dinos22]

i wouldnt trust it, was told it's most likely fake!

[haylui]

That poor fx8120 is decently slower than 1100T. In C10 it is ~7% slower than 3.3Ghz X6,in C11.5 ~12% slower than 3.3Ghz X6 and in wprime 2.24x slower. Does anyone believe AMD will launch FX chip that can't even beat 2 years old X4 let alone X6?

IDK, but VR-ZONE normally is quite accurate with news since I have join that forum. Hopefully this is not true.

[2good4you]

I don't buy that. There are always new steppings, typically every 6 to 9 months. However, new architectures have big increases in performance. Speed bumps are typically 3-5%. That sounds completely backwards.

Hi JF. I am getting attacked on my Swedish forum SweClockers.com. I told them to not believe any "leaked" benchmark.

Now they putting up the SiSoft Sandra result's on the newspage and totally agree it really is the final sample benchmarks. I told them they're wrong because of the numbers and whay you told us. I wrote this and look at the response...

Scroll down to the post 12:31 from me

http://translate.google.com/translat...23post11343257

Whay can I tell them, any message from you?

It's a big forum and we should have you there!

[informal]

From Anand's twitter account:

anandshimpi
B2.G is where AMD is at today, no word on whether or not that's final, it's close though

11 hours ago

anandshimpi

This is why we never did an early preview of Bulldozer on AT, no sense in putting out numbers that may not be representative

11 hours ago


anandshimpi

And I don't believe the final decision has been made to go to market (desktop) with B2.G either, will know for sure in the coming weeks

11 hours ago


anandshimpi

I'm not saying anything about absolute performance, just keep in mind that silicon that's older than ~2 weeks isn't production worthy

11 hours ago

anandshimpi

Beware of any leaked Bulldozer benchmarks, unless you're running B2.G you're not looking at shipping performance

So yeah,all those results showing BD ES slower than Bobcat/Llano are useless.

[FlanK3r]

That poor fx8120 is decently slower than 1100T. In C10 it is ~7% slower than 3.3Ghz X6,in C11.5 ~12% slower than 3.3Ghz X6 and in wprime 2.24x slower. Does anyone believe AMD will launch FX chip that can't even beat 2 years old X4 let alone X6?

lol, did u seen these wprime 1024m? Slow as Athlon X3. Nice cripled results

[LowRun]

Whoaw, this is a total mess

[Warwian]

Hi JF. I am getting attacked on my Swedish forum SweClockers.com. I told them to not believe any "leaked" benchmark.

Now they putting up the SiSoft Sandra result's on the newspage and totally agree it really is the final sample benchmarks. I told them they're wrong because of the numbers and whay you told us. I wrote this and look at the response...

Scroll down to the post 12:31 from me

http://translate.google.com/translat...23post11343257

Whay can I tell them, any message from you?

It's a big forum and we should have you there!

SweClockers is and has always been a joke when it comes to trustworthy news.

It's unfortunate that the site has a such big influence over other less knowledgeable Swedish "enthusiasts". AMD may have lost many potential customers in Sweden because of the leaked news.

[dinos22]

Hi JF. I am getting attacked on my Swedish forum SweClockers.com. I told them to not believe any "leaked" benchmark.

Now they putting up the SiSoft Sandra result's on the newspage and totally agree it really is the final sample benchmarks. I told them they're wrong because of the numbers and whay you told us. I wrote this and look at the response...

Scroll down to the post 12:31 from me

http://translate.google.com/translat...23post11343257

Whay can I tell them, any message from you?

It's a big forum and we should have you there!

a lot of people online are gullible and will believe in anything that even remotely matches their expectations or opinions

there's very little you can tell a bunch of idiots who believe something that served to them blindly.

[informal]

Honestly speaking I think AMD is to blame too. They seeded their partners with these ES that were not final products.Ok ,they didn't want ANYONE to know how good/bad Bulldozer is,I understand that. But they must have known that some of the data based on these non-final ES will leak on the web and will cause an avalanche of hate towards them.Now they are left with a pile of crock *** being tossed at them and they can't do anything about it since we are still 1 month from desktop launch. They can't leak anything official since this is not the way the operate .They can refute this (what JF does all the time) but "kids on the internet" are cruel and don't trust officials more than they trust some random Chinese guys with non-final products in their hands that perform worse than Bobcat.

[v0dka]

Honestly speaking I think AMD is to blame too. They seeded their partners with these ES that were not final products.Ok ,they didn't want ANYONE to know how good/bad Bulldozer is,I understand that. But they must have known that some of the data based on these non-final ES will leak on the web and will cause an avalanche of hate towards them.Now they are left with a pile of crock *** being tossed at them and they can't do anything about it since we are still 1 month from desktop launch. They can't leak anything official since this is not the way the operate .They can refute this (what JF does all the time) but "kids on the internet" are cruel and don't trust officials more than they trust some random Chinese guys with non-final products in their hands that perform worse than Bobcat.

Totally agreed. AMD clearly isn't able to understand that you have to keep the enthousiasts fed. Leak enough to still their hunger. Enthousiasts are the people that make buy decisions for lots of others and are often professionally involved in the IT sector. AMD shouldn't give them the cold shoulder for so long. Where is their public relations team? If I remember correctly, JF-AMD does the forums in his own time. That should tell you something.

Especially now server parts are being shipped there is no reason to withold results any longer. Around the launch of K8 people found out it was a good architecture because of Opteron benchmarks. Get some Opterons to major reviewers and get it over with.

[Particle]

Informal, that's nonsense. Partners need CPUs in order to test their complementing products such as motherboards and complete systems, final silicon or not. The engineering reasons for sending out ES chips trumps any beef you might have with them as an enthusiast. You're looking at it purely from the perspective of someone who wants to know about the product early.

[informal]

Maybe you misunderstood me. I have no beef with them. I just say they are also to blame for this FUD campaign that started 2 months ago. Now they are kinda in defensive mode with folks like JF (who doesn't even need to do this as he is not paid for that) rebutting things over and over again.
Product will launch when it's ready. We all understand this.

[v0dka]

Informal, that's nonsense. Partners need CPUs in order to test their complementing products such as motherboards and complete systems, final silicon or not. The engineering reasons for sending out ES chips trumps any beef you might have with them as an enthusiast. You're looking at it purely from the perspective of someone who wants to know about the product early.

I think his point is that AMd should do some damage control at the point where bad results are getting leaked.

[xsecret]

AMD turns schizophrenic with all the guys from Austin telling "no no, that's fake ! that's not real performance ! not real performance ! Everything is fake !". Well, the truth is : since last week, AMD is now communicating under NDA about the launch planning & about performances to sales and media partner. With their own benchmarks with final processors on many "awesome" slides. If their own slides were leaked right now, they will tell everybody it's not real, shipping performance, just fake ! fake ! fake ! Guess why...