AMD Reschedules Launch of FX-Series Chips to October, Changes Launch Lineup.

[qcmadness]

So if today server is shipping for revenue,and launch will be Q4
how long does it usually take from SFR to launch?

around 2-4 months?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...lano_APUs.html

Shipping: 4th Apr
Launch: 30th Jun

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/...r_Revenue.html

Shipping: 11th Sep
Launch: Jan 2011

[radaja]

around 2-4 months?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...lano_APUs.html

Shipping: 4th Apr
Launch: 30th Jun

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/...r_Revenue.html

Shipping: 11th Sep
Launch: Jan 2011

thanks for that

from JF's blog,he made this comment.

Interlagos is a server part, there is no desktop variant. The client version of Bulldozer is Zambezi and it will launch in Q4.

Source
http://blogs.amd.com/work/2011/09/07...-of-a-new-era/

[imamage]

Q4 2011 , I wish it's earlier than my birthday in Dec

[G0ldBr1ck]

Can somebody point me to a announcement by AMD stating a earlier launch date? I guess there must be one that I missed since everyone is saying AMD keeps delaying there launch.

[god_43]

Can somebody point me to a announcement by AMD stating a earlier launch date? I guess there must be one that I missed since everyone is saying AMD keeps delaying there launch.

someone already did the research.


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php

[El Mano]

What do you guys think of this?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a

It seems the article has been removed. I found this on Steam's forums.

[god_43]

What do you guys think of this?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a

It seems the article has been removed. I found this on Steam's forums.

...that cant be right, they must be using the gimped samples.

[undone]

...that cant be right, they must be using the gimped samples.

Now the problem seems to dumped from the chip itself to the software(bios, drivers, etc), it's obvious that different stepping just have same performance according to some known tests, result are the same but conclusion is differ from before, which insist on the problem of chip itself. I think all related software won't be released until NDA lifted, since then, all chips include 'crippled' samples will receive performance boost. Maybe the chip can still has problem but the other factor's more complicated than we thought.

[kromosto]

Bulldozer nuke'em forever

[gallag]

What do you guys think of this?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a

It seems the article has been removed. I found this on Steam's forums.

Wow, seems like a pretty complete review???? Has to be humped in some way though???
Bd could not suck that much!

[Vicey]

By the time these chips finally arrive they will be irrelevant. This is disappointing to say the least.

[Origin_Unknown]

quick - better sue over this

[SKYMTL]

What do you guys think of this?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a

It seems the article has been removed. I found this on Steam's forums.

I'm pretty sure SISoftware and AMD are really, really hating webcache right about now...

Whether or not these are actual benchmark numbers is anyone's guess but we have to remember:

- SiSoftware is always one of the first to receive final production samples for validation.

- This is a very reputable organization which doesn't benefit in any way by publishing phony results.

- The clock speeds listed line up perfectly with the latest rumors.


As with all things though, I recommend you don't make any assumptions until actual reviews are released.

[Particle]

Ofc it gets boring if you choose to believe every damn date the Internet comes up with

No kidding. People rage every time one of the Internet rumormill dates pass, despite it never having been claimed as anything by AMD itself. It's sad.

[stangracin3]

i swear all BD threads should be banned from the news section until A) NDA Lifts or B) BD launches...

[RussC]

Why is there such a large difference in memory controller speed,
Memory Controller Speed
AMD:2200MHz (11x200)
SB:3000MHz (30x100)

That seems huge to me out of the gate. Plus, theres no info on the processor at all, whether its a ES or production unit or MB details. Just not sure what to make of it.

RussC

...that cant be right, they must be using the gimped samples.

[stangracin3]

that will probably be amd's stock clock obviously that should be enough to make up for most of those.

[Olivon]

No kidding. People rage every time one of the Internet rumormill dates pass, despite it never having been claimed as anything by AMD itself. It's sad.

"So in the last call, we indicated early summer for desktops and late summer for servers. And that's still where we're at." Richard Bergman AMD - Q1 2011 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2649...ipt?part=qanda

[Origin_Unknown]

after this, i decided to quote myself



http://seekingalpha.com/article/2649...ipt?part=qanda

quick - better sue over this

...

[Hans de Vries]

32nm Bulldozer with AVX went through:

1) Launch somewhere in 2011
2) Launch in second half 2011
3) Back to Launch somewhere in 2011
4) Launch in early Summer 2011 for desktop, late summer 2011 for Server
5) Shipping in August, Launch in September/October for both, due to an extra stepping needed
6) Shipping in August/September Launch in ....


And how does that compare with Sandy Bridge EP ?......
2roiz9h.jpg


Regards, Hans

[SEA]

someone already did the research.


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php

It was highly biased research and was fully refuted:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4940600

Again, the xbitlabs as the only source of all delays sounds ... you know.

[Brice MJ]

32nm Bulldozer with AVX went through:

1) Launch somewhere in 2011
2) Launch in second half 2011
3) Back to Launch somewhere in 2011
4) Launch in early Summer 2011 for desktop, late summer 2011 for Server
5) Shipping in August, Launch in September/October for both, due to an extra stepping needed
6) Shipping in August/September Launch in ....


And how does that compare with Sandy Bridge EP ?......
2roiz9h.jpg


Regards, Hans

Could you tell us what SB-EP has to do with this thread?
The more you/we flame about Intel, the earlier Zambezi comes to market? I dont think so.

[bamtan2]

What do you guys think of this?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a

It seems the article has been removed. I found this on Steam's forums.

uh what. I won't make one because I'm not invested in this enough, but this page deserves its own thread. this is actual news.

just in case it disappears: bulldozer performs like nehalem. it is worse than sandy bridge in every way. the one test it wins, crypto, it loses when measured perf per clock.

Similar to the power efficiency, Zambezi is 30% less [performance] efficient clock for clock [than sandy bridge]; this means it is less efficient than even previous Core CPUs

Final Thoughts / Conclusions

Looking back at all the benchmarks of the new CPU, it is obvious that AMD is a generation behind Intel performance-wise. The "all new" design is better than the K8-variants and some results (e.g. Cryptography, Multi-Media) than the competition, but the other results are dissapointing. 256-bit performance (AVX/FMA) - what modern software will use - is "slow", most likely due to the shared FPU within a CU; the competition saw great gains from AVX, this is not the case here.

It will be challenging for AMD to compete in the "enthusiast market" with a CPU with (only) dual channel memory against tri-channel; maybe that's why Intel has not bothered to upgrade the 3-year old X58, but when it does (X79) the gap will widen even more.

For AMD fans the upgrade is definitely worth it, especially if they already use a socket AM3+ motherboard; for those that have a socket AM3 boards you'll need to check whether a BIOS update is enough to ensure compatibility. In any case, the CPU is much faster than the mainstream "Llano" (see AMD Desktop "Llano" APU (CPU+GPU)).

Pricing is currently the main unknown, but AMD has not been as hungry for cash - at least from an upgrade point of view (you still need a modern board).

[Manicdan]

uh what. I won't make one because I'm not invested in this enough, but this page deserves its own thread. this is actual news.

just in case it disappears: bulldozer performs like nehalem. it is worse than sandy bridge in every way. the one test it wins, crypto, it loses when measured perf per clock.

i wouldnt read too much into those results, the Native Dhrystone/Whetstone benchmark looks way off, i googled a bit and found that amd x4 chips get around 50, and x6 chips get 70, so why would BD get only 54.64?

scores of current AMD chips:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=9
http://www.techtree.com/India/Review...213-635-4.html
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=966&page=8

[Russian]

uh what. I won't make one because I'm not invested in this enough, but this page deserves its own thread. this is actual news.

just in case it disappears: bulldozer performs like nehalem. it is worse than sandy bridge in every way. the one test it wins, crypto, it loses when measured perf per clock.

This seems a little out of line with what I've seen. Mostly in terms of which tests it wins in, because there are some places where sandy bridge will not will (h.264 encode/decode) which weren't mentioned in this.

I think that we have yet to see what bulldozer is capable of, but there have been a lot of old benchmarks floating around and most of them are on old silicon. If they have no proof that they're on final silicon at final clocks there's no way to gauge performance.