You're missing the point though. Sure, overclocked performance matters to most (but not all) of us here, but we as an overclocking community might account for what...10, 1K trays of CPUs? Like it or not, we're a barely significant niche which you're overstating the importance of with your sweeping statement that assumes what matters to us matters to a significant degree overall. It doesn't. I think that's what he is trying to tell you.Originally Posted by Michaelius
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Hopefully the extreme overclocking market stays that way and never get enough strength to drive the market. I have seen too many single minded people that just pays attention to ultra high end overclocked performance disregarding power consumption, price performance, performance per Watt, noise, etc. For Benchmarkings it may be fine, but with that ideology we could as well still be in the NetBurst era and sitting in Tejas successor.
Overclocking is a bonus that is nice for casual and even 24/7 usage when you're getting it for free, using retail heatsink and such. That changes when people is purchasing 50U$D+ heatsinks, 150U$D+ Power Supplies and the like, because they want to push a Chip much beyond the point where the Frequency/Voltage curve becomes exponencial and they get astronominal increases in power consumption and possibily noise for just 100 MHz increments, add in the diminishing returns and the exponencial Hardware price increase and you get a clearer picture.
The value overclocker, that is possibily the most abundant one, can't and doesn't have any real reason to push Hardware beyond that curve because the cost is not worth it and these days with a budget but well choosen machine you can't be really pushed by Software where overclocking further could make a difference bewthem usable or a PowerPoint slideshow. If you ask me, I would use the overclocking headroom to reducer Voltage and get lower power consumption and noise, and currently, for the vast majority of the enthusiast that is happily served by retail performance doing that should make more sense that the "how high it overclocks?" trash.
Last edited by zir_blazer; 09-05-2011 at 07:54 AM.
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