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[Formula350]

OK this is old (relatively speaking), but I also was gone for all of July and w/o intarwebz, so I easily could have missed it...

Accord to CPU-World, there are 12-core parts (I only bring it up since it was mentioned a page or two ago): Opteron 6234 - http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldo...%20series.html
This page shows the Opty 6274 having an ETA for 1200+ chips of November 1st http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/...BKU8925P.shtml

[BeepBeep2]

...haha, and the desktop launch was supposed to be a quarter ahead of server/workstation...

[duploxxx]

Yes,what Lightman said.The specs were complete copy/paste from MC.

ah sry didn't see that in the link off course now.....

...haha, and the desktop launch was supposed to be a quarter ahead of server/workstation...

If you have followed the news you would have known that desktop parts are rescheduled for a while now.
Server launch date and specs have been solid for many months.
Since both launch dates are not known well, any rumour on the internet posted about sources from a certain BD part tends te get mixed.

[Smartidiot89]

OK this is old (relatively speaking), but I also was gone for all of July and w/o intarwebz, so I easily could have missed it...

Accord to CPU-World, there are 12-core parts (I only bring it up since it was mentioned a page or two ago): Opteron 6234 - http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldo...%20series.html
This page shows the Opty 6274 having an ETA for 1200+ chips of November 1st http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/...BKU8925P.shtml

Socket G34 will get 16, 12, 8 and 4-core parts
Socket C32 will get 8, 6 and 4-core parts

[nex_73]

Haha, hang in there JF-AMD, the launch is near
http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/11...aunch-faq.html

[JF-AMD]

Socket G34 will get 16, 12, 8 and 4-core parts
Socket C32 will get 8, 6 and 4-core parts

Socket C32 will not have 4-core bulldozer, the 4-core socket C32 are still Lisbon parts.

[Evantaur]

this thread is starting to remind me of this

[Alex-Ro]

JF-AMD,is BULLDOZER still in the 60-90 day window like in the last slide,or will this period be extended?

[freeloader]

Deleted out of frustration.

[LowRun]

JF-AMD,is BULLDOZER still in the 60-90 day window like in the last slide,or will this period be extended?

AMD brought the 60-90 days timeline for availability on June 1st AFAIK so they missed it already.

[xdan]

Q. When are you launching? Why don't you release the date?A. When we launch, we launch. I will not comment on dates, I will not comment on schedules. We do not release dates prior to launch, at most we give quarter granularity. Giving the date out will stall demand. We have a business to run.

Q. Why don't you release benchmarks before launch? You could steal so much business away from the other guy?
A. Again, releasing benchmarks before launch will simply stall sales.Believe me, if the competition thinks they are out of position, will they just sit back and say "oh well" or will they react? .

So from this post what is the conclusion?
Well no benchmarks are release before launch because performance is not what expected it will only stall demand before even launch. Intel if they want now at a raise of a finger they release IB and SB-E in one month.
All the post sounds just like JF-AMD have smoke something.

After at least 3months of delay and some good lies on the way, you could tell to consumers: When we launch, we launch...

[Alex-Ro]

Yea,they have a business to run,maybe laundry or smth,not making CPU's....

Releasing benchmarks before laung will simply stall sales if those benchmarks proove that the product is thrash,otherwise releasing good numbers will stall Intel sales...

[Smartidiot89]

Socket C32 will not have 4-core bulldozer, the 4-core socket C32 are still Lisbon parts.

I was going to argue against that until I saw who wrote it

Thanks for clarification, I can only guess the reason is lack of demand?

[james333]

Doesn't he mean that if they release info now it will stall sales of older hardware, in other words if everyone knew a powerful chip is just round the corner, the rest of AMDs phenom II chips will never be sold or sold at a loss over the next few years? I know the enthusiast end of the market will be in the know with the fact BD is coming but for the rest of the normal level market, the people that shop at PC world etc, they will be none the wiser. Just like if you go to a high street computer store, you see last generation graphics cards at the same price as the newer more powerful hardware available. They must still sell plenty of old tech to un knowing customers or they wouldn't stock it. What do you guys think?

[CrazyNutz]

JF-AMD http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/11...aunch-faq.html. Perhaps it just me, but this guy comes across as arrogant and sarcastic.

[informal]

You would probably come across the same way if you would have to deal with garbage in his inbox daily . It's not an easy job and on top of that he is not even payed to do this online stuff...

[freeloader]

You would probably come across the same way if you would have to deal with garbage in his inbox daily . It's not an easy job and on top of that he is not even payed to do this online stuff...

He can't comment on future designs, so why does he even attempt to answer anyone who's asking questions? Seriously, he should stick to answering questions about current AMD CPU's and his life would be much rosier.

[zir_blazer]

He can't comment on future designs, so why does he even attempt to answer anyone who's asking questions? Seriously, he should stick to answering questions about current AMD CPU's and his life would be much rosier.

I doubt that anyone here cares about current Opterons lineup. You could have a ton of raw processing power with a pair of Magny Cours but there is not any real life scenario where you could even actually use it on a Desktop enviroment that doesn't include some Synthethic Benchmark, and you're losing no less than 500-1000 MHz (The Opteron 6180SE is the fastest, 2.5 GHz part with Magny Cours) against a Desktop part, and overclocking will be hard if not impossible considering that you will have no BIOS support to do so and must use Software tools like a Clockgen for the Base Clock limited by a very low Multiplier, and I doubt Dual Socket Motherboards deals good with high Base Clocks. With the exception that you can somehow go beyond 6 CPU intensive Threads a Thuban @ 4 GHz would be better, and much, much cheaper. Otherwise you could go for a Dual LGA1366 with a pair of Xeons E5520 or higher and have both Dual Processor, the advantage Sandy Bridge vs K10 performance and power consumption, extremely high end Single Threaded performance, and at least one expensive Motherboard that was capable of overclocking them by BIOS (An EVGA it was I think).

A good guess is that Bulldozer could launch earlier for Servers than Desktop, I suppose that we could happily annoy JF-AMD to get info from him if that happens. Besides, I DO expect that any sort of high hype or anticipation would really stall current Servers sales. On the Desktop there is always people that pays inflated prices for old Hardware in supermarket computers and the like, but anyone willing to spend over 4 or 5 digits of dollars in just Processors should do even minor research, and if there was a major launch nearby, wait for it. If Bulldozer proves to be impressive and no one wants the current Opterons, JF-AMD wiill have to use Magny Cours as cotton inside his pillow.

[freeloader]

I doubt that anyone here cares about current Opterons lineup. You could have a ton of raw processing power with a pair of Magny Cours but there is not any real life scenario where you could even actually use it on a Desktop enviroment that doesn't include some Synthethic Benchmark, and you're losing no less than 500-1000 MHz (The Opteron 6180SE is the fastest, 2.5 GHz part with Magny Cours) against a Desktop part, and overclocking will be hard if not impossible considering that you will have no BIOS support to do so and must use Software tools like a Clockgen for the Base Clock limited by a very low Multiplier, and I doubt Dual Socket Motherboards deals good with high Base Clocks. With the exception that you can somehow go beyond 6 CPU intensive Threads a Thuban @ 4 GHz would be better, and much, much cheaper. Otherwise you could go for a Dual LGA1366 with a pair of Xeons E5520 or higher and have both Dual Processor, the advantage Sandy Bridge vs K10 performance and power consumption, extremely high end Single Threaded performance, and at least one expensive Motherboard that was capable of overclocking them by BIOS (An EVGA it was I think).

A good guess is that Bulldozer could launch earlier for Servers than Desktop, I suppose that we could happily annoy JF-AMD to get info from him if that happens. Besides, I DO expect that any sort of high hype or anticipation would really stall current Servers sales. On the Desktop there is always people that pays inflated prices for old Hardware in supermarket computers and the like, but anyone willing to spend over 4 or 5 digits of dollars in just Processors should do even minor research, and if there was a major launch nearby, wait for it. If Bulldozer proves to be impressive and no one wants the current Opterons, JF-AMD wiill have to use Magny Cours as cotton inside his pillow.

I was merely stating that for JF's own sanity, that he refrain from talking about future products. I'm sure he's pretty tired of answering the same questions over and over again on many different forums. I'll bet you he's looking forward to the NDA lifting.

[FlanK3r]

I ran fopr XS forum and for AMD FX . Hope, it will help for launch soon. Lol, I looking worse, than after race

[El Gappo]

:p

[jmrios]

I ran fopr XS forum and for AMD FX . Hope, it will help for launch soon. Lol, I looking worse, than after race

If you translate the text in the upper left corner of your picture from spanish to english you will have BIG surprise my friend.

[PerryR]

You would probably come across the same way if you would have to deal with garbage in his inbox daily . It's not an easy job and on top of that he is not even payed to do this online stuff...

Particularly when you see the way folks treat him. It's funny watching layman try to explain marketing to a marketing director.

[Particle]

I don't know how he deals with it, honestly. People are so rude to him constantly and bother him with total nonsense.

[Evantaur]

If you translate the text in the upper left corner of your picture from spanish to english you will have BIG surprise my friend.

haha
nice find