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    Quote Originally Posted by XRL8 View Post
    @BeepBeep at least one of the tests was on a 990FX final bios mainboard.And no, i dont think AMD would launch a chip in that state.
    If you dont want to post in this thread, fine, but I will tell you one thing...

    Latest AGESA code for Bulldozer does not equal bios's on released boards tuned for Thuban.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
    the only thing i THINK i understood was that AMD is better at scheduling than windows, and that drivers can improve BD performance
    Considering windows vista/7 are specifically shipped with AMD drivers from K7 to K10.5, that makes sense
    Last edited by BeepBeep2; 06-16-2011 at 08:55 AM.
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    As its a new angle on the subject and you guys dont mind poking me ;-) .But boy i do feel stupid about the thread not being on topic anymore...

    Quote Originally Posted by nex_73 View Post
    The bios needs to be tweaked for zambezi, so does the microcode. So i would not call it final.
    Think they are working on AGESA rev0.0.7.6 right now.
    The boards are released as "BD ready"... they will work with a BD right on, but for full support/functionality a bios update is needed...
    My understanding was, as mainboard makers had samples for months now, chipsets as well (the 9 series) and that launch was supposed to be around now.That the bios is ready,should be some time ago.
    When they advertise support for Am3+ CPU`s, i dont really think they can do it if its gonna work horribly...
    What AGESA code is in current AM3+ MB`s ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    If you dont want to post in this thread, fine, but I will tell you one thing...
    Latest AGESA code for Bulldozer does not equal bios's on released boards tuned for Thuban.
    Considering windows vista/7 are specifically shipped with AMD drivers from K7 to K10.5, that makes sense
    I partially didnt get what youre saying. Youre saying AGESA for BD isnt on current MB`s ?
    That could happen, but it would mean there was "something" that derailed mainboards/Bios optimization as they should be ready some time ago.
    Thats also a problem for people, i mean, yes, we can just flash the bios and voila.However most people arent that tech savy, they bought something that should just work.
    Theres some marketing problems with that theory, if there is bios/agesa problem that needs addressing with a new agesa and bios update they could just postpone 9xx chipsets Mb`s liek they did with cpus and deliver fully functional product from the start.

    The driver need seems somewhat more plausible.Phenom I comes to mind with its problems with CNQ ,that drivers fixed somewhat.And before that Dual core optimizer.
    Thats weak tho, it would mean BD is going to work like it should only on driver supported systems.From what i know Intels cpus have not had this problem with either turbo boost, normal operation or idle operation.They just work.I was hoping for fully hardware turbo on BD.Turbo core on X6 was barely working , seems to be the same with Llano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XRL8 View Post
    What AGESA code is in current AM3+ MB`s ?
    The leaked tests we have seen are probably done with AGESA rev0.0.7.4
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4845936
    I know Gigabyte released a bios with rev0.0.7.5 just a few days ago
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4879777

    And it's probably so that B2/C0 works far more better with the shipped mb AGESA rev0.0.7.4 then a B0. This the mb manufacturers & AMD know for sure, therefore it's fine to sell the boards now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XRL8 View Post
    As its a new angle on the subject and you guys dont mind poking me ;-) .But boy i do feel stupid about the thread not being on topic anymore...



    My understanding was, as mainboard makers had samples for months now, chipsets as well (the 9 series) and that launch was supposed to be around now.That the bios is ready,should be some time ago.
    When they advertise support for Am3+ CPU`s, i dont really think they can do it if its gonna work horribly...
    What AGESA code is in current AM3+ MB`s ?



    I partially didnt get what youre saying. Youre saying AGESA for BD isnt on current MB`s ?
    That could happen, but it would mean there was "something" that derailed mainboards/Bios optimization as they should be ready some time ago.
    Thats also a problem for people, i mean, yes, we can just flash the bios and voila.However most people arent that tech savy, they bought something that should just work.
    Theres some marketing problems with that theory, if there is bios/agesa problem that needs addressing with a new agesa and bios update they could just postpone 9xx chipsets Mb`s liek they did with cpus and deliver fully functional product from the start.
    Latest AGESA rev (ie. not 0.0.7.5) is not ideal for Thuban/Deneb by itself...
    Last edited by BeepBeep2; 06-16-2011 at 10:30 AM.
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    wtf are you talking about turbo dont work on x6..... works fine and down clocks fine. do you read reviews at newb sites or something or suffer greatly from PEBKAC?????

    you keep saying your gona stop the newbness. but 5 minutes later you post another long rant about your grassy knoll theories.



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