I want something juicy to talk about around the water-cooled water-cooler at teh XS party next CESOriginally Posted by subtec
I am ALL for getting some kick arse products - I also am interested in how this stuff is developed not just in the end product.
"Thing is, I no longer consider you a member but, rather a parasite...one that should be expunged."
BTW, i wonder if it's possible to make some really unusual rad combinations with these modular ones - eg. something like "S" 4-piece from tetris, where two rads are not exactly side by side
great solution !! I think that you have made a new way of waercooling solution
Stephan@AC
Can you tell what material is used for AMS watertube (waterchannel) production? Is it different for copper/aluminum models?
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Just curious, why not publish your internal testing results?
I think it would be awesome if we could encourage more manufacturers to share data this way. It shows consumers there is faith in performance of the products and provides emphasis that there was good R&D behind the scenes....
I can only see benefit here and would like to highly encourage more manufacturer testing. We need both manufacturer and 3rd party testing, not one or the other.
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I might understand that results might vary for something like waterblocks as it depends a lot from cooled hardware piece/testbed, but imho for components like rads / pumps there should be no problems to get repeatable result range of dissipated heat with specific fan models/fanspeeds/flow speed and pressure drop lines ..
haha db you crack me up.Only? Mmm. Since that is what differentiates these from all other radiators on the market . . .using the word 'only' is like saying the only different between an obese girl and a hot thin girl is ONLY 600 pounds. That is a lot of 'only' my friend.
It's not to uncommon to see 2 of the same type of product or close to same product invented at the same time. This brings me to think about the invention of the phone.
"In the 1870s, two inventors Elisha Gray and Alexander Graham Bell both independently designed devices that could transmit speech electrically (the telephone). Both men rushed their respective designs to the patent office within hours of each other, Alexander Graham Bell patented his telephone first. Elisha Gray and Alexander Graham Bell entered into a famous legal battle over the invention of the telephone, which Bell won."
Anyways nice Rads any plans on making Radiator sizes for 180mm fans?
It's unlikely but not impossible.
Am I the only one who doesn't see the AC AMS as a "knock-off / copy / whatever" of the other recent German design? Sure there is Delrin involved, round tubes, but thats where it stops. The fins on the AC are not machined into the tubes, that is a major difference. Once you start looking at the details, the only similarity is that they're both radiators. But, what do I know...
I'm looking forward to testing these if I get the chance, something new and different hitting the bench is always fun.
Nope, not just you.
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Am I the only one who doesn't see the AC AMS as a "knock-off / copy / whatever" of the other recent German design? Sure there is Delrin involved, round tubes, but thats where it stops. The fins on the AC are not machined into the tubes, that is a major difference. Once you start looking at the details, the only similarity is that they're both radiators. But, what do I know...
I'm looking forward to testing these if I get the chance, something new and different hitting the bench is always fun.
agreed, this one might actually be viable
show me the long history of modular radiators . . .it would be like two compression fittings hitting the market at or around the same time when NO ONE had made compression fittings before or like two companies releasing full coverage GPU blocks at the same time when NO ONE had released them before. Look at how they connect. Uh, TOTALLY the same man. Let's think about it more . . .both done in what country? Germany. Again, not saying who if anyone has done anything shady but it sure does beg some questions. But then what do I know. A bit new to water-cooling and this industryAm I the only one who doesn't see the AC AMS as a "knock-off / copy / whatever" of the other recent German design? Sure there is Delrin involved, round tubes, but thats where it stops. The fins on the AC are not machined into the tubes, that is a major difference. Once you start looking at the details, the only similarity is that they're both radiators. But, what do I know...
I'm looking forward to testing these if I get the chance, something new and different hitting the bench is always fun.
"Thing is, I no longer consider you a member but, rather a parasite...one that should be expunged."
i will stick to my tc pa 120.3but nice to see some crazy innovations
At least we don't have to worry that aqua computer is phobya, and remaking other products left and rightI want something juicy to talk about around the water-cooled water-cooler at teh XS party next CES
Yep. Me neither. This is a conventional radiator fin design. Feser's used skived tubes. Basically a very thick walled tube with with metal skived off.Am I the only one who doesn't see the AC AMS as a "knock-off / copy / whatever" of the other recent German design? Sure there is Delrin involved, round tubes, but thats where it stops. The fins on the AC are not machined into the tubes, that is a major difference. Once you start looking at the details, the only similarity is that they're both radiators. But, what do I know...
I'm looking forward to testing these if I get the chance, something new and different hitting the bench is always fun.
Any photos of those?
for sure. like i said I am not taking sides if there are even sides to take - just asking the questions. funny how people focus on ONE design aspect which is different and then dismisses the one I am saying is the same.
"Thing is, I no longer consider you a member but, rather a parasite...one that should be expunged."
Who came up with what first?
The idea?
The design on a napkin?
The actual product?
The actual product to the market?
The concept. I personally would like to know who came up with the concept of this type of modular radiator and how the second party came up with their concept
"Thing is, I no longer consider you a member but, rather a parasite...one that should be expunged."
Oh, ok. Then it was me. Muhuhuhuwahaha
now it makes sense . . . you is the anti-Christ (post count). Yes, it is all your faultOh, ok. Then it was me. Muhuhuhuwahaha
"Thing is, I no longer consider you a member but, rather a parasite...one that should be expunged."
WOW, LMAO!!
Busted......
The Feser ones where show way earlier on their "soon to come" with the 5x140 monsta "holy moses" radiator flash site, around september of 2010.In our forum we gave the first information including the use of Delrin parts, the "Lego" modularity system, no soldering etc. at January the 9th of this year (http://forum.aquacomputer.de/wasserk...go#post1341237).
We also have send applications for utility models to the german patent office before this date.
This first information (Delrin, modular system, no soldering, completely decomposable, CNC build) was given on january the 9th. On january the 11th another company (you know) released information about a radiator in a very hasty way and a great video presentation
So saying january, well, its already way later.
I'm not saying you copied.
But just wanted to point this out.
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you are wrong ,Feser show of the proposed new RAD in september of 2010 but the RAD had nothing to do with being modular at all,it was new round tube design and nothing more ,
the idea of modular "lego" design came to light in Jan 2011 CES show in vegas "famous introduction video ",just by looking at the new airplex RAD you can tell this product is well design and thought of ,
it takes time to come up with brand new/finished product like this ,stop the accusations
great job AC
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