Well its worth remembering that we are now discussing "delays" based on a RUMORED launch date.Originally Posted by Mats
It cant get better then this.
Well its worth remembering that we are now discussing "delays" based on a RUMORED launch date.
It cant get better then this.
That's what I'm trying to say, to me it sounds like BS.
I really hope AMD does not delay Bulldozer, want to see it in action already. This wait so so annoying.
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ZOL reported that BD will be mass produce in August, hard launching in September.经过一次又一次的跳票，一份文档再次曝光了推土机的上市日期。从图片中我们看出，推土机架构处理器的产品准 备和产品生产的时间为2011年8月份，而正式上市的时间为2011年9月份。首批上市的处理器包含四款型 号，分别是八核心FX-8150/8100、六核心FX-6100和四核心FX-4100。
chili sauce: http://cpu.zol.com.cn/231/2310866.html
That'd be some seriously bad news, enough to make me build a sandybridge PC if true
i heard nothing about a delay but that doesnt have to mean that there isnt any. ill keep digging...
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if is true ... is good performance
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Could simply be launch of models 8150, 8100, 6100, 4100, while 8130, 8110, 6110, 4110 would launch at another day.
At the first round we'll get four AM3+ CPUs: FX-8130P, FX-8110, FX-6110, FX-4410
AMD roadmap:
ZOL is talking about different CPUs which will obviously coming later:
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The second slide says "up to 8 MB total L3 Cache" and "Zambezi Core" too, so it's just like a copy of some other fake we saw...2 or 3 days ago except presented in a nicer table? Jesus this is getting ridiculous now.
Where is the source about these pics?
Slowly feel there's some lurkers that create rumor, then LOL while watching those spreading all over the world. Why the hell amd kept silence?
If they aren't going to start production until August, I don't see how they'd do a real launch in September. It takes longer than a month just to bake a wafer during regular production.
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Don't tell me that September is Bulldozer's launch, that is so long.
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I wouldn't put too much faith in it. My point was basically that production start to retail launch needs to be longer than the timespan indicated here, which makes its validity questionable. There's a good chance it's BS. We know AMD is announcing the product in three weeks, and at that time they're certain to reveal when they expect retail availability. We'll find out soon enough.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
I really hope that you're right and nothing changed in between
I am not worried, I think AMD is doing a great job of keeping this quiet. They most likely want to have all the Buz at the tech show, I mean look at all the talk going on everyone will be intrigued and waiting for the news. They probably want to make this the AWE moment be the best show at the event. I have been trying real hard to ignore all the stuff being posted and just wait patiently. Not to much longer till we know if it is or isn't going to launch...
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This is from last year:
They're getting a lot of negative buzz right now. I'll wait until the end of June, but no later for BD. I'll go with an Intel setup if I can't buy an AMD BD processor by then. Tired of waiting now.I am not worried, I think AMD is doing a great job of keeping this quiet. They most likely want to have all the Buz at the tech show, I mean look at all the talk going on everyone will be intrigued and waiting for the news. They probably want to make this the AWE moment be the best show at the event
As quoted by LowRun......"So, we are one week past AMD's worst case scenario for BD's availability but they don't feel like communicating about the delay, I suppose AMD must be removed from the reliable sources list for AMD's products launch dates"
And it's likely a fake.This is from last year:
But at least it looks quite real and not so obvious as donanimhaber fakes.
i think alot of us just want a date, if we knew how long it was then we wouldnt be so paranoid about any more delay rumors.
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Since everyone in here seems to be so excited over a piece of hardware I couldn't agree more. People in here needs a date.
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The one I posted is real,but schedules can change.I doubt AMD had a slip of 3 months in their schedule.If they did ,that means they hit a bug or clock wall and needed a re-spin in order to fix it,which I doubt.
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if all these 'leaks' are orchastrated by intel's investment wing (who've been implicated in stock manipulation in the past) and/or AMD shorts to affect AMD stock value. AMD finance message boards and tech forums are infested with intel shills and viral marketeers. It's glaringly obvious. Here's a couple examples.
Elmer Phudd the moderator is the biggest intel shill around. And now moderating an AMD finance message board?
http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/sub...ubjectid=36138
Yahoo AMD finance message boards are a cesspool of intel shills (set your rating to 1 star to see any relevant posts).
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/AMD
The same guy necro-posing this thread in Anandtech forums is posting the same crap on Yahoo forums.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=24796
That's just the tip of the iceburg.
AMD has said repeatedly that performance numbers will only be revealed through their blogs. So are all these fake and unrealistic 'rumors' floating around just intel fanboys having fun? Doubt it. Is it designed to disrupt and manipulate stocks, cause uncertainty? It's starting to look that way.
Last edited by flippin_waffles; 05-25-2011 at 09:46 AM.
This just made me LOL litterally,you do know that intels big dog Ivy bridge chip just got delays to 2h2012 right?
Why would they delay there ivy bridge? because maybe they are waiting to see how well BD does against sandy. if sandy is a better performer they have no reason to put out ivy bridge yet since they will pick up sales from people that were waiting to see how BD will stack up against sandys.
Things get delayed from both sides,its not intels fault that BD is not out yet.It is AMDs fault that Ivy is backed up tho.There is no reason for intel to put out Ivy since there is no BD yet.They can easily sell a crap load of sandys while they wait for BD to hit the streets.
Last edited by Skratch; 05-25-2011 at 10:05 AM.
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