Feser's New Lineup

[Waterlogged]

I doubt the copper channels used in regular heater cores that we are using are any thicker than 1mm ? 0.5mm would sound more realistic... ? Anyone has figures about this ?

I may have something in a couple days. I'm mulling over whether or not I want to cut open my GTS 120. I really hate the damn thing and it'd make a good sacrifice if I make up my mind that I never want to use the thing again. The only thing keeping me from doing it at this moment is my AP-15's...they may actually make the GTS "useful".

[SpuTnicK]

Just for information. Only few rad manufacturers use Copper for tube material, for example, XSPC RX-series, Coolgate, Feser X-changer (no more). Others, Thermochill, EK, Swiftech, Phobya, have either Brass tubes or don't specify tube material at all. Fins, on the other side, are Copper for all these rads.

[SpuTnicK]

It looks like Admiral are going to be released after all

You Tube

Estimates - July 2011 (read the comments)

[ying]

yep, but this radiator desing isn't patented by thermalfins?

[Mudgey]

Thats awesome, it would be cool if they could release them with the acrylic end caps and joining pieces.

So will they release them with both types of end caps? It would be interesting to see whether the serial path gives better transfer rates than the parallel.

[Vapor]

Been 8 months since announcement....if something isn't seriously wrong with their performance (Thermalfins, too), I'd be surprised.

[SpuTnicK]

yep, but this radiator desing isn't patented by thermalfins?

No. AFAIK Admirals are produced somewhere far East

[usrebmot]

Might be underwhelming
but we can test during the nice summer temperatures

[SpuTnicK]

Been looking through a bunch of Youtube videos and bumped into this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHgl...ailpage#t=204s

Is that a new Feser rad? (3:24). Surely does not look like AC AMS or Thermalfins X3

[bundymania]

Compare to this:

termalfins-x3-3_x550.jpg

http://hw-lab.com/thermalfins-a-new-...ercooling.html

[SpuTnicK]

Compare to this...

That does no look like steel to me, more of Acrylic/Plastic

[subtec]

Probably an acrylic endpiece on the AMS. edit: actually, considering the source, it might very well be a Feser rad with an acrylic endpiece.

[Church]

Seems that some products from Admiral line Feser actually managed to make. Shrouds with LEDs :/
It looks as their height is optimal one (~30, as per Martin's test), but imho they should have call it somehow else, to not remind about many failures in bringing admiral rads to market.
Also pricing .. cutting up yates is so much cheaper :/

[Evantaur]

Seems that some products from Admiral line Feser actually managed to make. Shrouds with LEDs :/

well considering they said this

Any updates on the official release date yet?

the release will be july.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ4oCy-vCsc

[king033]

i was surprised nobody mentioned this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXnX6...&feature=feedu

[MaadDaawg]

'so, has anyone actually seen one of these on the market?? Even the Feser website does not list any rads ??

very strange indeed

[SpuTnicK]

i was surprised nobody mentioned this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXnX6...&feature=feedu

absolutely pointless

[Waterlogged]

i was surprised nobody mentioned this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXnX6...&feature=feedu

absolutely pointless

+1

I have multiple problems with that vid.

1. what generation is that Admiral? Is is one of the first prototypes or is it a newer modular version that he just got? I noticed he mentioned a RX360 in the vid, does this mean that the 240 was the only Admiral he has?

2. what was ambient? If the ambient was high teens to low 20's, temps of a loaded system are going to look a lot better than if the temps were say mid to high 20's.

3. editing of the vid leaves a lot of doubt in my mind as to how many video sessions there were before he got results that were to his liking.

4. last but certainly not least...3k RPM screamers?...really??? These rads were supposedly designed to work best with their Triebwerk crap which are from from the screamers he used but, he did sort of validate what I said back on page 11.

That vid is nothing more than a marketing tool to see how much interest there still is in a rad that will likely never see the light of day...shilling at it's best.

[PiLsY]

Put 3k screamers on any decent 240mm and you'll cool that rig. That can in no way be used as indication of the rad performance. Did he even mention ambient? Water temp was still rising too in the occt test - you can tell as the gpu's idle temp is still climbing. Not good that it hasnt reached equilibrium in that amount of time.

[thegcpu]

+1

I have multiple problems with that vid.

1. what generation is that Admiral? Is is one of the first prototypes or is it a newer modular version that he just got? I noticed he mentioned a RX360 in the vid, does this mean that the 240 was the only Admiral he has?

2. what was ambient? If the ambient was high teens to low 20's, temps of a loaded system are going to look a lot better than if the temps were say mid to high 20's.

3. editing of the vid leaves a lot of doubt in my mind as to how many video sessions there were before he got results that were to his liking.

4. last but certainly not least...3k RPM screamers?...really??? These rads were supposedly designed to work best with their Triebwerk crap which are from from the screamers he used but, he did sort of validate what I said back on page 11.

That vid is nothing more than a marketing tool to see how much interest there still is in a rad that will likely never see the light of day...shilling at it's best.

Put 3k screamers on any decent 240mm and you'll cool that rig. That can in no way be used as indication of the rad performance. Did he even mention ambient? Water temp was still rising too in the occt test - you can tell as the gpu's idle temp is still climbing. Not good that it hasnt reached equilibrium in that amount of time.

+1

Don't you think he would show a bit more of the rad?

Smells fishy

[SpuTnicK]

Don't you think he would show a bit more of the rad?

There is a 3d part of that build log that shows a bit more of that rad. So i guess that answers my question in post 559:

Is that a new Feser rad?

[thegcpu]

There is a 3d part of that build log that shows a bit more of that rad.

Don't you think he would SHOWCASE the rad, as the LC community has been waiting a year to see this thing

Smells real fishy….

[PiLsY]

Its probably just a sample from months ago he's using up. Given the hype it would generate it would've been given more of a feature and hopefully more of a test if it was a release preview.

[SpuTnicK]

Don't you think he would SHOWCASE the rad, as the LC community has been waiting a year to see this thing

Smells real fishy….

nahh... TFC would let him. Do you remember their reaction to the leaked admiral micro-site with all specs that was shortly closed with monkey face put instead. And now some guy just "accidentally" puts a engineering sample of a new top secret product into his vid... yeah that does sound fishy.

And i believe this is what happened: this design has failed to perform well despite all the hype around it (at least in the way Fester implemented it in its rads), but first eng. samples were sent out to its "partners" before it was discovered. So now there is no reason to hide it. Instead, why not create a bigger fuzz about it - so here you are folks, a freshly baked benchmark video.

BTW where did that modular design system go? That dual 120 rad does not seemed to be built out of two cooling units.

[Evantaur]

BTW where did that modular design system go? That dual 120 rad does not seemed to be built out of two cooling units.

it's still there, watch closely (sidepanels are in 2 pieces)

you can also see it in here