Bulldozers first screens

[richierich]

Yeah you've lasted that long with that E6600 another few weeks is nothing, lol.

[haylui]

AMD seriously needs to release SOME information soon, I'm getting the itch with Z68 launching, that was the last thing I was waiting for before contemplating a SB build, I was really hoping to have heard at least SOMETHING by now, so I could decide if I was going to wait, because at this point, if I wait for BD, and it's not everything AMD wants it to be, it will be so close to SB-E I won't be able to help it but wait, and that would be lame. I'm sick of my e6600 and 975xbx garbage >_<

its alright to buy SB now..

[Particle]

I had an E6600 once. I really enjoyed that chip. It was first-run silicon and I could get the system to POST at 4.4 GHz on the DFI ICFX3200-T2R/G I had. It wasn't stable or anything, but just being able to even get to the Windows loading screen on a 2006 CPU at that frequency is pretty impressive. It could even run low-intensity software like CPUID off of Ultimate Boot CD and such. Fond memories.

[stangracin3]

AMD seriously needs to release SOME information soon, I'm getting the itch with Z68 launching, that was the last thing I was waiting for before contemplating a SB build, I was really hoping to have heard at least SOMETHING by now, so I could decide if I was going to wait, because at this point, if I wait for BD, and it's not everything AMD wants it to be, it will be so close to SB-E I won't be able to help it but wait, and that would be lame. I'm sick of my e6600 and 975xbx garbage >_<

if you die in 3 weeks, i will come to your funeral. ok well prolly not, but the point is you've been on said POS system for how long now? you can last 3 more weeks. its not like your a crack addict that has to have his fix for new hardware every 2 months

[kam03]

So when is the actual BD release date and when is SB-E coming out? also whats the difference with SB and SB-E?

[muziqaz]

AMD does not need to release any info. Those who make AMD money by buying 1000s of chips everytime, they already know what bd can do. Those other 5 people in all forums saying they need benchmarks early does not bother AMD much. There is no benefits of releasing benches early.

[informal]

Won't be long now folks,be patient. 3 weeks or so and the wait is over.

[keithlm]

AMD says something about performance = "They're touting it, it's gonna suck!!!!"

AMD keeps quiet about performance = "They're not saying anything, it must suck!!!!!"

You forgot some later suckage comments that might be posted:

When we do finally get a non-fake benchmark Leak which looks good for BD: "The xyz benchmark looks great for BD. But what benchmark will it suck at?"

Later if we get an entire review showing good results for BD: "This review looks good for BD. But the reviewer sucks so BD must also."

When we get a review from a "trusted" reviewer (if it doesn't show BD sucking): "So it seems BD looks pretty good at this time. I wonder how bad it will suck after IB is released."

And Hypothetically if everything and everyone in the world shows it performing slightly better then the similarly priced Intel chip: "It's AMD so it sucks that it costs that much."

[kam03]

Those people that are waiting for it need to take their mind off it or those 3 weeks will feel like a year lol.

[bamtan2]

Those people that are waiting for it need to take their mind off it or those 3 weeks will feel like a year lol.

another way to think about it is that intel 2500k is really, really, really good, like best cpu overall ever.

so even if bulldozer is REALLY good too, it won't be that much better, and half these guys will end up getting sandy bridge anyway. all that wait for a $20 price drop. my oh my

[keithlm]

another way to think about it is that intel 2500k is really, really, really good, like best cpu overall ever.

so even if bulldozer is REALLY good too, it won't be that much better, and half these guys will end up getting sandy bridge anyway. all that wait for a $20 price drop. my oh my

Perhaps if BD is, as you say, "REALLY good too" then people will stop coming into Bulldozer threads to post unsolicited opinions of Intel chips.

Probably not... but we could hope for sanity.

[XRL8]

another way to think about it is that intel 2500k is really, really, really good, like best cpu overall ever.

so even if bulldozer is REALLY good too, it won't be that much better, and half these guys will end up getting sandy bridge anyway. all that wait for a $20 price drop. my oh my

Huh ?There were many platforms/cpus which offered more for less,and werent intentionally castrated at that.

Great info to post in AMD news thread btw.Well done.

[MrMojoZ]

The best place to hear how totally awesome an Intel part is: Any AMD post in the news section. Double time if the original post was positive about AMD in anyway, that is just asking for trouble.

[Skratch]

Don't hate because intel has a better chip.its sad that the second intel gets brought up you see the amd fan boys say something.I would bet anything that if bd clocked to 6ghz on air that you guys would have a field day on the forums.

Fact is right now sandys are better and they clock to 5ghz

[Manicdan]

the 200$ 2500K is easily the best current gaming cpu for the price, but this is only because of how few games care about having more than 3 cores

with amd the cpus might not clock as high or have as good as IPC, so thuban with more cores is a great well rounded cpu for an incredible price (a 1055T overclocked past 4ghz shouldnt lag behind in many games at all)

if you have ONE need, then you can find the PERFECT cpu,
if you have MULTIPLE needs, then chances are there is NO PERFECT cpu.

[MrMojoZ]

Don't hate because intel has a better chip.its sad that the second intel gets brought up you see the amd fan boys say something.I would bet anything that if bd clocked to 6ghz on air that you guys would have a field day on the forums.

Fact is right now sandys are better and they clock to 5ghz

Perfect example, thank you. Let us all set fire to our grammar skills then go into AMD threads and tell them to stop hating on Intel. This is the type of thing that makes forums horrible.

[JkS]

Those people that are waiting for it need to take their mind off it or those 3 weeks will feel like a year lol.

Reminds me of when Phenom II came along with the 6.3GHz overclock and the liquid nitro runs, that wait definitely felt like a year.

[Skratch]

Makes what horrible? The fact that no one can bring up sandy bridges performance without being called a fanboy?bd is going up against sandy and im sorry but we are going to compare them and bring up sandy strong points.

[DuraN]

Makes what horrible? The fact that no one can bring up sandy bridges performance without being called a fanboy?bd is going up against sandy and im sorry but we are going to compare them and bring up sandy strong points.

The problem is most likely that you state Sandy is the better CPU when there are no BD performance numbers out yet?

[MrMojoZ]

Makes what horrible? The fact that no one can bring up sandy bridges performance without being called a fanboy?bd is going up against sandy and im sorry but we are going to compare them and bring up sandy strong points.

That is fine in a thread about comparing the two, the problem is when someone dumps a boat load of "Fact is right now sandys are better and they clock to 5ghz" in a thread that has nothing to do with Intel parts. Hence the term thread dumping, it instantly turns the thread into a shouting match and it never needed to happen. This is how you tell the fanboys from the fans. I don't hate Intel, I own an i7, but seeing the same jerks try to rip apart every AMD thread they can gets really old.

[XRL8]

Makes what horrible? The fact that no one can bring up sandy bridges performance without being called a fanboy?bd is going up against sandy and im sorry but we are going to compare them and bring up sandy strong points.

You read the title of this thread ?
Does it say "Alternatives to bulldozer" ?
Or maybe "Bulldozer vs Sandybridge" ?

This thread should be about news about bulldozer, not statements like "2500k is awesome" .
2500k sucks.There you have it.
It makes as much sense as intel fanboys statements about 2500k being great, because we DONT HAVE ANY CREDIBLE INFO ABOUT BD YET, so how are you comparing them ?
Anyhow thats irrelevant as this thread aint about how 2500k smacks 1100T around(we dont have BD numbers ,so thats what they must be rambling on).
I bet mods are reading this.Am i wrong mods ?
Its always Intel fanboys going the distance to amd threads here and in amd section just to tell us how bad are amd cpus and how great are intel cpus.Ive never posted in intel section, cause i dont have any intel cpu.And i dont post about AMD cpus in the intel news ...

[Chickenfeed]

I expect the 8core parts to go head to head with (if not pass) the 990x in highly threaded workloads. Although I am a gamer there are many other things that can and will leverage the computational potential of more threads and that won't change any time soon. Rendering, encoding, folding, workstation multitasking ect. Its down to work load.

From a pure games only perspective having more threads ( than the norm today ) at your disposle isn't going to be overly benificial until we are dealing with engines that are designed for it. Now faster threads are where games will benifit today.

The dual core to quad core adoption rate was quite slow but despite this, multithreaded console hardware created a gradual influx of highly threaded game engines where the benifits can be seen on quad core hardware today (this wasn't the case when they launched). The same will apply to 6 and 8 + core processors but not until the bottleneck in software ( the game engine ) is removed and thats not going to happen until the next consoles release and even then not overnight. My point here is more cores will do little gaming wise today, but I'd be crazy to say I don't use my system for other things and that the status quo won't change in a few years time.

[Skratch]

I havnt posted in the amd section in over 5 years.what I ment was sandy is out now and we know it clocks well and nobody knows how high a bd will clock.

If it comes out to be a monster I will get it but I hate the fact that this board is so sensitive when someone brings up intels chips.the thread dosnt have to be about the directly as bd is ment to go head to head with sandy.

[DuraN]

I havnt posted in the amd section in over 5 years.what I ment was sandy is out now and we know it clocks well and nobody knows how high a bd will clock.

If it comes out to be a monster I will get it but I hate the fact that this board is so sensitive when someone brings up intels chips.the thread dosnt have to be about the directly as bd is ment to go head to head with sandy.

Fair enough, but why do you state Sandy is the better CPU and why do you bring in how high Sandy chips clock? You're also saying noone knows how high BD will clock. I hope you see how people can misinterprete your posts.

[JumpingJack]

So when is the actual BD release date and when is SB-E coming out? also whats the difference with SB and SB-E?

Bulldozer will appear in mid-June probably at computex. As you can probably read BD has generated quite bait of anxiety as people await performance of final silicon. The leaked performance data so far either is faked or is too low to be even remotely believable, generally written off as premature early engineering samples.

SB-E is the next rev of the high end desktop parts. Similar to the relationship if the current i7-900 series to the mainstream i7-800 and i5 parts. Unlike the current SBs (2300,2500,2600) the SB-E will not have graphics integrated and will have a few items different (more L3 cache, quad channel memory, and likely more PCIe lanes built into the CPU).

The SB and BD clash is shaping up to become legendary.