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solution. Make hw bot create a new category for ES. make them add a line for the cpu serial for everyone else. if someone make a submission with the same id they will get the result with no points. before you bench you simply write your chip serial down. this is the perfect time for this brian because of the new hw bot ver is almost out. maybe its time to add a few things so we dont have asset members like you dropping out. I always thought ES should have its own category. and the sandybridge thing is totally ridiculous. its out of hand. thats what happens when you cant run cold on a chip. You have everyone doing a bunch of trading with the same lucky cpu's and you have a mess. screw SB. its the cpu that the devil invented. that thing is evil.
if hwbot is going to be the points database then there needs to be stricter enforcement on submissions. and those shared chips should be monitored somehow. like carfax works in the US. when you buy a used car you go to carfax and type in the VIN and you can see if the car was in any accidents who owned it before you etc. etc.
do the same with hardware. does cpuz have a way to show a specific id code for the chip? so we can tell if a chip is being used by more than one user?

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solution. Make hw bot create a new category for ES. make them add a line for the cpu serial for everyone else. if someone make a submission with the same id they will get the result with no points. before you bench you simply write it down. this is the perfect time for this brian because of the new hw bot ver is almost out. maybe its time to add a few things so we dont have asset members like you dropping out. I always thought ES should have its own category. and the sandybridge thing is totally ridiculous. its out of hand. thats what happens when you cant run cold on a chip. You have everyone doing a bunch of trading with the same lucky cpu's and you have a mess. screw SB. its the cpu that the devil invented. that thing is evil.

Thats not the solution either. Then you have people with money to piss away and or manufacturers binning 20,30,50 even 100 retails.

Not to mention AMD or intel can easily brand ES as retails and have done so in the past, least the way it is now they are trackable.......

The guys with money to burn and just throw away would love for the ES factor to be removed, makes it easier for them to dominate.

End users are sometimes more guilty than the manufacturer. They can put a gun in your had but ultimately the enduser is the one that decides to pull the trigger.

Some people can and will draw a line in the sand and say ok this is a line I won't cross, sadly there are far more that will cross the line and or have no line they would not cross.

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Thats not the solution either. Then you have people with money to piss away and or manufacturers binning 20,30,50 even 100 retails.

Not to mention AMD or intel can easily brand ES as retails and have done so in the passed, least the way it is now they are trackable.......

The guys with money to burn and just throw away would love for the ES factor to be removed, makes it easier for them to dominate.

well i dont know how you get around that man. If I buy 50 chips and bin all of them and submit my best chip it means nothing. I can buy 100 lottery tickets and all of them are losers. then honest joe blow comes in that bought just one and wins the whole thing. luck of the draw is luck of the draw.
money is great and all and its the root of all evil but I also believe in the oc gods. if you buy some hardware and rma it in a dishonest way you will get punished later somewhere down the line. condensation or bent pins. usb key got messed when you saved the submission...or maybe you got the thermos confused with your beer and drank ln2. it all comes back.

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well i dont know how you get around that man. If I buy 50 chips and bin all of them and submit my best chip it means nothing. I can buy 100 lottery tickets and all of them are losers. then honest joe blow comes in that bought just one and wins the whole thing. luck of the draw is luck of the draw.
money is great and all and its the root of all evil but I also believe in the oc gods. if you buy some hardware and rma it in a dishonest way you will get punished later somewhere down the line. condensation or bent pins. usb key got messed when you saved the submission...or maybe you got the thermos confused with your beer and drank ln2. it all comes back.

not quite an accurate analogy, you can't resell a lottery ticket if it sucks.

You also can't resell a decent lottery ticket for more money than its worth if it's decent.

I also know people paying $600 for guaranteed chips and in fact have been offered money for good chips.

That removes luck from factor, also partial skill after all there is a bare minimum XXXX frequency will give you for a score even if your the worst ocer in the world.

Like I said sometimes what matters most is how you acchieve a result and not the actual result.