Phenom II X4 980, 3.7GHz

[FlanK3r]

new silicon Denebs are freqently now in CZ . Easy 4GHz at air with 1.4-1.45V (955 BE/965BE). Topped at 4200-4300 MHz obviously.

[Klarko]

You are right of course, AMD should just have canceled their production, sold their fabs and lied down to die in 2006 when Intel took the lead, just as Intel should have done when K7 and K8 was released.

I see it as a "why not" release. Maturing process is apparently allowing better yields so what have they got to lose releasing it?

It's an upgrade path if you are already on AMD and didn't want to overclock.

I still have a 940 BE with 8gb of ddr2 memory behind it. I can't tell the difference between it and my 1366 platform for most things.

You guys are taking what I said the wrong way. I just think AMD should be focusing on BD and stop pushing it back.

[duploxxx]

You guys are taking what I said the wrong way. I just think AMD should be focusing on BD and stop pushing it back.

there is no focus needed on older products, this is easy business where yields are improved. Creating a higher bin cpu increases ASP.

BD is where they scheduled it to be, it was originally posponed to 32nm and this process on its own was delayed... they will all arive very soon.

[AbortRetryFail?]

You guys are taking what I said the wrong way. I just think AMD should be focusing on BD and stop pushing it back.

I don't think AMD 'pushed' BD Zambezi anywhere --- it's been Q2-2011 for quite awhile.

If anything, they moved risk production up to the first part of April.

IIRC, last Fall AMD moved Llano back a month or so (to concentrate on BD?), and the internets started howling about 'yield issues!' and 'gate-first Fail!' --- so much so that Dirk had to come out and issue a statement, 'No problems, here ..."

[-Boris-]

You guys are taking what I said the wrong way. I just think AMD should be focusing on BD and stop pushing it back.

The release of new Phenoms won't affect the release date of BD at all. They could release 15 new processors today and nothing of it would affect the release of BD. Not even the development of a brand new chip from the bottom up would affect the release at this point.

[Klarko]

Well I guess I was under the wrong impressions, my mistake :P

[onethreehill]

AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Reviews
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4310/a...edition-review
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=738&Itemid=63
http://www.bjorn3d.com/articles/AMD_...tion/2050.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom...cessor-review/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...or-review.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=1167
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=30225
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-P...dition-Review/
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cp...dition-review/
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...edition,1.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1603/1/
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-phen...?utm_source=pr
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...enom_2_x4_980/
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...pii_x4_980_be/
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Process...iew-Last-Breed
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1274.html
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20873

[Lucky_n00b]

Wow, now AMD is doing the chip binning for us overclockers huh?
* and the more reason to sell it at higher price *

What next? 985 @ 3.8Ghz? 990 @ 3.9Ghz? or maybe 995 @ 4Ghz with stock VID at 1.55v + boxed compact liquid cooler? J/K

[awdrifter]

It would be cool if the X6 can hit these clocks stock.

[haylui]

the stock speed of 980 beats my 720BE OC speed.

[zanzabar]

time to get a dell workstation, stick this in there, and watch the fireworks.

i dont get why they didnt put this out before like in the 04-06 were amd and intel pushed out whatever they could in small quantities but this should be epic for OEM computers since they get tested at stock and cannot oc.

[SQjay]

Wow, now AMD is doing the chip binning for us overclockers huh?
* and the more reason to sell it at higher price *

What next? 985 @ 3.8Ghz? 990 @ 3.9Ghz? or maybe 995 @ 4Ghz with stock VID at 1.55v + boxed compact liquid cooler? J/K

I believe that Sandy E will come with stock liquid cooling so what is your point?
Also with 1.55V you can go at 4.5GHz especially with H2O cooling.
980 BE OC

[awdrifter]

Liquid cooling is the next stage of the evolution of cooling, just like in automobiles.

[64NOMIS]

If you are looking for a binned to the britches X4 the 980BE is where its at. A TWKR by another name guys.

This is the ultimate refinement of the chip that changed the extreme - cold - OC game. Nothin wrong with that.

[zanzabar]

If you are looking for a binned to the britches X4 the 980BE is where its at. A TWKR by another name guys.

This is the ultimate refinement of the chip that changed the extreme - cold - OC game. Nothin wrong with that.

so the chip that looks like an OEMs wet dream will run hot and loose with the voltage, i would expect the opposite.

[64NOMIS]

so the chip that looks like an OEMs wet dream will run hot and loose with the voltage, i would expect the opposite.

Just need to find one with voltage tolerance. Doesn't take that many. Ask chew*.

[Lmui]

Argh, this chip is actually clocked higher at stock than I can get on my 940BE @1.5v =/.

Going to wait til bulldozer comes out and probably next fall since graphics cards > CPUs for me after a certain point.

[Glow9]

Argh, this chip is actually clocked higher at stock than I can get on my 940BE @1.5v =/.

Yeah who would think in 2 years that would happen.

[mAJORD]

While these little speed bumps don't make a dent in Intels lead, over time, they do result in good drop in upgrade CPU for those on old AM2+ or early AM3 setups I guess.. 99% of 3yr old Mobo's would accept this CPU after all.

[Unsurper]

I noticed the vcore is low at 3.7 stock speed, but when they over clock it the vcore jumps alot for that little overclock. I think the vcore at 4.2ghz is like 1.4+ and any other chip will run the same at those speeds, but I think this chip is just a more stable overclocker, maybe thats what amd is trying to get better stable over clocks on these chips. What is the highest vcore amd said you can run on this chip, because we know 1.4 is the usual highest before the chip degrates if used at those speeds for a long period of time.

[FlanK3r]

Wow, now AMD is doing the chip binning for us overclockers huh?
* and the more reason to sell it at higher price *

What next? 985 @ 3.8Ghz? 990 @ 3.9Ghz? or maybe 995 @ 4Ghz with stock VID at 1.55v + boxed compact liquid cooler? J/K

Man, I think, this is fun....more than 5 GHz Cinebench at aircooling at x4 980. What do u say now? And its bull with new silicons no need 1.55V to 4 GHz, my x4 975 need only 1.42V for 4 GHz stable.
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/component/c...hz#CommentMenu



He told me (OBR), this specific chip can 6 GHz superpi 1M with aircooling !!! And this is still 45nm AMD SOI L-L

I must have x4 980 too. I thought, 975 was my last, but....

[richierich]

FlanK3r, go go go lol

[FlanK3r]

:d .....

[dartaz]

It seems that i5 750/760 at stock speeds can compete with this processor, and beat it in most gaming benchmarks

Unfortunately, most consumers are going to be fooled by the high clock speed of 980. Not may people could believe that 1GHz lower clock speed CPU could compete or even beat PII X4 980

[FlanK3r]

no, i5-750 is comparsion with x4 955-965BE, i5-760 with 970 BE. Again, I readings all CPU review from world pages. For one product example 10-50 reviews.