***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

[zinsco]

@ zinsco, Are you using anything usb 3.0? If not do you have the drivers loaded. as mine did weird things until i removed the usb 3.0 drivers. Check that and see what you get.

I've had this system for about a year running on default settings. During that time it has gone in and out of sleep using the usb with out ever having one issue, until now that I have OC'ed. My concern is that I damaged something, because now, even at default settings it won't work with usb anymore. I will check out the usb 3.0 regardless. Thx

To attempt to level out temps across the cores. Cores 2 and 5 consistently show to be nearly and sometimes 10*c and over on temp compared to the other 4 cores which consistently stay within 3*c of each other.

When I started lapping, two narrow and long areas on the plate that were parallel to one another were positioned approximately over where cores 2 and 5 should be. It took alot is sanding to get it all level.

I can confirm that those two cores run hotter that the others. I think that's awesome that you managed to even them out by lapping your cpu.

I'm @ 4.4 24/7 with the 960 utilising sleep.. sure i've had issues with sleep like many others but that was attributed to and confimed throughout other forums to be stability related and nothing more.

Would you be willing to share your settings so that I can compare and see if I can get beyond 4.0? I can get to 4.7 with my voltages high but not too high and 4.5 with them below 1.45 running stable but not allowing sleep to work. I have a 980x so of coarse like for like settings won't work but I could play with it.

My real concern though, is that I have damaged something. If I did, do you guys think it would be my board, ram, or cpu.

[zoson]

I've had this system for about a year running on default settings. During that time it has gone in and out of sleep using the usb with out ever having one issue, until now that I have OC'ed. My concern is that I damaged something, because now, even at default settings it won't work with usb anymore. I will check out the usb 3.0 regardless. Thx

I have no issues going in and out of sleep at 4.2GHz with 2GHz mem using usb. From what I understand some usb devices can cause the sleep mode to hang. Try unplugging all usb stuff except your keyboard and see if it will come up out of sleep.

I can confirm that those two cores run hotter that the others. I think that's awesome that you managed to even them out by lapping your cpu.

I very much doubt he had any effect since he has not posted screenshots. It is a known fact released by Intel that the sensors on 32nm parts are just bad and barely reflect the actual temperature of the processor. Intel says it is within specification to see temp differences of up to 15C per core, even if they're all actually the same temperature. Not to mention the sensors are not even in the same location on every core, so they measure different parts of each core.

Would you be willing to share your settings so that I can compare and see if I can get beyond 4.0? I can get to 4.7 with my voltages high but not too high and 4.5 with them below 1.45 running stable but not allowing sleep to work. I have a 980x so of coarse like for like settings won't work but I could play with it.

My real concern though, is that I have damaged something. If I did, do you guys think it would be my board, ram, or cpu.

I went back to 0003 bios yesterday as I restarted a few times and Memory Recheck did NOT find all my ram!!! I went back to 0003 and manually specify tRL and it always works.

Here are my working settings:

Target CPU Frequency                  4200MHz
Target DRAM Frequency                 2005MHz

LN2 Mode                              [Disabled]***
QPI Loadline Calibration              [Enabled]***

Sync Mode                             []
AI Overclock Tuner                    [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up                  [Auto]
2D Performance Booster                [Disabled]
CPU Ratio Setting                     [21.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit                 [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting                     [21.0]
C1E Support                           [Enabled]
Hardware Prefetcher                   [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch          [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering            [Modern ordering]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech          [Enabled]
CPU TM Function                       [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit                   [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology                [Enabled]
*Active Processor Cores               [All]
A20M                                  [Disabled]
*Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech          [Disabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech                 [Enabled]
C State package limit setting         [Auto]
C1 Auto Demotion                      [Auto]
C3 Auto Demotion                      [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency                        [200]
PCIE Frequency                        [100]
DRAM Frequency                        [DDR3-2005MHz]
UCLK Frequency                        [3608MHz]
QPI Link Data Rate                    [7218]

Memory Configuration Protect          [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency                          [ 7 DRAM Clock]
RAS# to CAS# Delay                    [ 9 DRAM Clock]
RAS# PRE Time                         [ 7 DRAM Clock]
RAS# ACT Time                         [20 DRAM Clock]
RAS# to RAS# Delay                    [3]
REF Cycle Time                        [82]
WRITE Recovery Time                   [9]
READ to PRE Time                      [5]
FOUR ACT WIN Time                     [24]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay                [Auto]

Timing Mode                           [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA             [53]
Round Trip Latency on CHB             [55]
Round Trip Latency on CHC             [57]
tRL CHA                               [-1]
tRL CHB                               [-1]
tRL CHC                               [-1]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD)               [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR)               [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR)               [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD)               [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR)               [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR)               [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD)                [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR)                [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR)                [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD)              [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR)              [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR)              [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude            [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew                        [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew                        [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode                        [T-Balanced]
PWM Volt. Control                     [6V]
Load-Line Calibration                 [Full Calibration]
CPU Voltage OCP                       [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency                     [500KHz]

Extreme OV                            [Disabled]
Extreme OC                            [Auto]

CPU Voltage                           [1.37500]
CPU PLL Voltage                       [1.25625]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage                 [1.35000]
DRAM Bus Voltage                      [1.65625]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA          [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA          [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB          [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB          [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC          [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC          [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage                           [1.20525]
IOH PCIE Voltage                      [Auto]

ICH Voltage                           [1.16600]
ICH PCIE Voltage                      [Auto]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum                   [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum                  [Disabled]



***on-board jumper dependant

[Raja@ASUS]

I have no issues going in and out of sleep at 4.2GHz with 2GHz mem using usb. From what I understand some usb devices can cause the sleep mode to hang. Try unplugging all usb stuff except your keyboard and see if it will come up out of sleep.



I very much doubt he had any effect since he has not posted screenshots. It is a known fact released by Intel that the sensors on 32nm parts are just bad and barely reflect the actual temperature of the processor. Intel says it is within specification to see temp differences of up to 15C per core, even if they're all actually the same temperature. Not to mention the sensors are not even in the same location on every core, so they measure different parts of each core.



I went back to 0003 bios yesterday as I restarted a few times and Memory Recheck did NOT find all my ram!!! I went back to 0003 and manually specify tRL and it always works.

Here are my working settings:

Target CPU Frequency                  4200MHz
Target DRAM Frequency                 2005MHz

LN2 Mode                              [Disabled]***
QPI Loadline Calibration              [Enabled]***

Sync Mode                             []
AI Overclock Tuner                    [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up                  [Auto]
2D Performance Booster                [Disabled]
CPU Ratio Setting                     [21.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit                 [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting                     [21.0]
C1E Support                           [Enabled]
Hardware Prefetcher                   [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch          [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering            [Modern ordering]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech          [Enabled]
CPU TM Function                       [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit                   [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology                [Enabled]
*Active Processor Cores               [All]
A20M                                  [Disabled]
*Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech          [Disabled]
Intel(R) C-STATE Tech                 [Enabled]
C State package limit setting         [Auto]
C1 Auto Demotion                      [Auto]
C3 Auto Demotion                      [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency                        [200]
PCIE Frequency                        [100]
DRAM Frequency                        [DDR3-2005MHz]
UCLK Frequency                        [3608MHz]
QPI Link Data Rate                    [7218]

Memory Configuration Protect          [Disabled]

>DRAM Timing Control--------------------------
CAS# Latency                          [ 7 DRAM Clock]
RAS# to CAS# Delay                    [ 9 DRAM Clock]
RAS# PRE Time                         [ 7 DRAM Clock]
RAS# ACT Time                         [20 DRAM Clock]
RAS# to RAS# Delay                    [3]
REF Cycle Time                        [82]
WRITE Recovery Time                   [9]
READ to PRE Time                      [5]
FOUR ACT WIN Time                     [24]
Back-To-BackCAS# Delay                [Auto]

Timing Mode                           [1N]
Round Trip Latency on CHA             [53]
Round Trip Latency on CHB             [55]
Round Trip Latency on CHC             [57]
tRL CHA                               [-1]
tRL CHB                               [-1]
tRL CHC                               [-1]

WRITE To READ Delay(DD)               [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(DR)               [Auto]
WRITE To READ Delay(SR)               [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DD)               [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(DR)               [Auto]
READ To WRITE Delay(SR)               [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DD)                [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(DR)                [Auto]
READ To READ Delay(SR)                [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DD)              [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(DR)              [Auto]
WRITE To WRITE Delay(SR)              [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

CPU Differential Amplitude            [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew                        [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew                        [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode                        [T-Balanced]
PWM Volt. Control                     [6V]
Load-Line Calibration                 [Full Calibration]
CPU Voltage OCP                       [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency                     [500KHz]

Extreme OV                            [Disabled]
Extreme OC                            [Auto]

CPU Voltage                           [1.37500]
CPU PLL Voltage                       [1.25625]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage                 [1.35000]
DRAM Bus Voltage                      [1.65625]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA          [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA          [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB          [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB          [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC          [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC          [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage                           [1.20525]
IOH PCIE Voltage                      [Auto]

ICH Voltage                           [1.16600]
ICH PCIE Voltage                      [Auto]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum                   [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum                  [Disabled]



***on-board jumper dependant

Your memory dropping is possibly being caused by running an insufficient tWR for that frequency - the tRL values tie into the tWR table offsets. At DDR3-2000 speeds the tWR should default to between 10~12 clocks.

[zoson]

Your memory dropping is possibly being caused by running an insufficient tWR for that frequency - the tRL values tie into the tWR table offsets. At DDR3-2000 speeds the tWR should default to between 10~12 clocks.

The same settings in 0003 work fine, 1301 drops a memory channel occasionally...

[Raja@ASUS]

The same settings in 0003 work fine, 1301 drops a memory channel occasionally...

Are you offsetting tRL in 003 yourself, though?

[zoson]

Are you offsetting tRL in 003 yourself, though?

That's what I said in the first post. In 1301 there is no tRL, but it has 'memory recheck' which is supposed to make tRL setting obsolete. It does not. Exact same settings in 1301 does not always work with my memory. It always works in 0003.

Moral of the story is that the memory recheck doesn't do the job perfectly.

[donmarkoni]

@zoson:
I agree that 0003 works and "feels" better then 1301, but as Raja said, your tWR setting is to tight.
I would even consider raising tRRD and tRTP by one each.

[p3gaz_001]

The same settings in 0003 work fine, 1301 drops a memory channel occasionally...

is since 1207 and previous i've being having this problem ...

[zinsco]

I have no issues going in and out of sleep at 4.2GHz with 2GHz mem using usb. From what I understand some usb devices can cause the sleep mode to hang. Try unplugging all usb stuff except your keyboard and see if it will come up out of sleep.

I haven't added or changed any usb devises for a year with this system and it only just started being a problem now that I started OC'ing. I have unchecked the box in the usb properties that says to use usb to wake up out of sleep and I use the power button and that works. It's just that if I clock my cpu over 4GHz with my ram higher than 1333, it won't come out of sleep.

I very much doubt he had any effect since he has not posted screenshots. It is a known fact released by Intel that the sensors on 32nm parts are just bad and barely reflect the actual temperature of the processor. Intel says it is within specification to see temp differences of up to 15C per core, even if they're all actually the same temperature. Not to mention the sensors are not even in the same location on every core, so they measure different parts of each core.

OK, that makes since. I thought that I shouldn't comment on this, because I don't know what I'm talking about and you just proved that. lol