Bulldozers first screens

[blindbox]

IF he is under NDA, hes violating it right now. and IF he destroyed a BD sample, hes in trouble (not such much for a validating sample).

So you do know what the NDA is. It's at least good to know that they are out in the wild.

P.S.: I ask again, when is Interlagos coming?

[FlanK3r]

JF said before some month s ago, Interlagos is Q3 product. So...

[XRL8]

Would do more screens but, that b***h NDA wont give up.
It was non-crippled chip, "was" because now its dead, yes i killed an BD.

Youre implying that youve made some screens before, but the other screens were made by some chinese guy .You have any link for your screens ?
As for the NDA, well ,if you wanna help community out, just register somewhere anonymously and do a cinebench score on a non crippled sample and post it .

[rintamarotta]

Youre implying that youve made some screens before, but the other screens were made by some chinese guy .You have any link for your screens ?
As for the NDA, well ,if you wanna help community out, just register somewhere anonymously and do a cinebench score on a non crippled sample and post it .

No links to pics since i dont upload them till NDA lifts.

[XRL8]

No links to pics since i dont upload them till NDA lifts.

And when the NDA lifts ?

[Shadov]

And when the NDA lifts ?

Tha NDA is under NDA I guess, youre not going to find out that easily. ;-)

[XRL8]

Tha NDA is under NDA I guess, youre not going to find out that easily. ;-)

Well you blew it ,he may have written the date in a quick reaction type o thing .Oh well, was worth a try.Hope someone shares some results before the launch tho.The wait is killing me.

[rintamarotta]

Im shure you begin to see benches of non-crippled BD's 1-2 weeks before NDA lifts from many sources.
Date is in NDA but its under NDA and that is under NDA and.. well you get the picture.

Well you blew it ,he may have written the date in a quick reaction type o thing .Oh well, was worth a try.Hope someone shares some results before the launch tho.The wait is killing me.

Im not quick reaction type of people.

[[XC] Oj101]

IF he is under NDA, hes violating it right now [1]. and IF he destroyed a BD sample, hes in trouble [2] (not such much for a validating sample).

1: There are various levels of NDA. From several people I've spoken to who have signed NDAs with AMD in the past he's within the boundries.

2: Not true if they're anything like Intel. Intel just said they wanted it back, not that it had to work

[w0mbat]

And when the NDA lifts ?

most NDAs just state that the date of the NDA lift is: TBD

1: There are various levels of NDA. From several people I've spoken to who have signed NDAs with AMD in the past he's within the boundries.

2: Not true if they're anything like Intel. Intel just said they wanted it back, not that it had to work

1. i know that there are various lvls, but if u get a BD sample they are mostly the same.

2. yes, they always want it back. but destroying a fully working sample doent go away too easy. there normally a form to fill out.

[rintamarotta]

1. I did read trough the NDA i have signed and i havent yet broken the NDA but its close.
2. It was mobo that broke the chip, no overclocking what so ever. Sended the mobo back to... well cannot yet tell it, thats under NDA also.
3. No important information told in this thread to public.
4. I "might" have another BD and mobo here .

[The Coolest]

@ rintamarotta

Could you say what you do, that you got to sign an NDA with AMD?

[rintamarotta]

Partly because of friends at very high in AMD leadership and partly because what i have done behind the scenes.

[[XC] Oj101]

Lucky you, I have a friend who's very high profile on an international level and he hasn't been able to get any info, let alone a chip :/

[DarthShader]

Lucky you, I have a friend who's very high profile on an international level and he hasn't been able to get any info, let alone a chip :/

I remember a pic signed with your name being showed a few months ago. All info was being "blue'ed out", except the clocks, which was 3.8GHz. Not you? Fake?

[MAS]

[[XC] Oj101]

I remember a pic signed with your name being showed a few months ago. All info was being "blue'ed out", except the clocks, which was 3.8GHz. Not you? Fake?

That was me, but I never made any claims as to what it was

[Sparky]

http://morepic.ru/images/878997878678678678.png

I can make bar graphs that say anything I want too. Any background to this, at all? Without more info, pic is useless

[w0mbat]

1. I did read trough the NDA i have signed and i havent yet broken the NDA but its close.
2. It was mobo that broke the chip, no overclocking what so ever. Sended the mobo back to... well cannot yet tell it, thats under NDA also.
3. No important information told in this thread to public.
4. I "might" have another BD and mobo here .

hm, then i shall add "bragging" to the not-to-do-list next time.

[[XC] Oj101]

I can make bar graphs that say anything I want too. Any background to this, at all? Without more info, pic is useless

What, like this?



Sorry, couldn't resist

In other words, without a verified source it's pointless

[FlanK3r]

[XC] Oj101: lol, this graph is very realistic , 50 000 CPU score, 980x is little baby . Maybe B1 revision will be improve up to 100 000 CPU score in Vantage

[DarthShader]

That was me, but I never made any claims as to what it was

Oh. Well played then.

[XRL8]

hm, then i shall add "bragging" to the not-to-do-list next time.

Why ? He maybe bragged a little bit but at least he described the performance "somehow", he said AMD dont have anything to be worried about.That at least confirmes its better than PHII.It wasnt just a "boo hoo i have one and you dont!" ;-)

[w0mbat]

no, i ment adding it to the NDA agreement cause he thinks hes not breaking it.

[JF-AMD]

Wich is fair enough. Though could you explain to us not so knowledgeable why its done like that?

Company releases benchmarks several months ahead of product being available.

Please google "osborne"

IIRC, there was a gentleman from AMD who cherry-picked a single test of Barcelona and noted a 40% gain ...

The internets morphed this into BARCELONA IS 40 PERCENT MO' BETTAH.

Then came the TLB, and then the nOverclocking that wasn't semi-corrected until sb 710-50, ACC and the 'magic pins'.

Shortly thereafter the AM2+ 940/920 PhIIs came out.

ITYANRIC (I think you are not remembering it correctly.

It was not a single cherrypicked benchmark. The statement was a server statement, not a desktop statement. At launch there were several benchmarks that were 40%+ greater for Barcelona.

The second half of your statement is correct. The interwebs grabbed that statement and made it a generic barcelona vs. Intel statement just as I have seen people misusing the "50% greater throughput" statement about Interlagos.