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[Falkentyne]

But there's a problem.
Someone said he had the 1.78v bug after he properly cleared CMOS after flashing.

And Sin said you're supposed to load optimized defaults, *then* clear cmos :/
Why would this matter?

Clearing CMOS clears everything, so it's like starting fresh.

What does loading optimized defaults do? And why would this matter if you're going to clear the CMOS anyway?

Because every flash I've done, I power off the computer right away, without restarting, I unplug the power supply, press the clear CMOS button a few times, hook everything up, then go in BIOS and set all my settings again. I've never loaded optimized defaults before...

Are you saying that if I do this WITHOUT 1) loading optimized defaults and 2) clearing CMOS AFTER loading optimized defaults, this 1.78v bug will happen?

[Lsdmeasap]

I didn't mention clearing CMOS at all after flashing, nor did I mention that doing so at anytime solved or had anything to do with the 1.7V issue.

Not sure what Sin meant, maybe he was sleeping, but loading optimized then clearing the CMOS would be a moot point (I mean no need to set something right before you clear it out?) Sin, when you see this I'm just giving ya a hard time buddy

Nope to all of your questions, that's not at all how I suggest a BIOS to be updated. We have talked about clearing CMOS before, and yes that can help when you are having issues, or could be suggested as a safe practice to get into, but I only use it when issues arise and didn't suggest it having anything to do with flashing BIOSes. Loading optimized sets a few settings to optimal setting, and clears out any old visible or invisible settings that may still be applied from fail safe after the flash (Fail safe is loaded no matter what you choose before the flash).

Here is how I suggest users to update their BIOSes.
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ash-guide.html

If this procedure is used, and you do not load/use any older saved to media BIOS profiles, you will not see the bug. Profiles can only be loaded from a saved source after flashing using the above method because once you flash and disable keep DMI data they will be erased same as clearing the CMOS.

[Falkentyne]

Ok I understand.
I just got worried because someone who said they had the 1.78v bug claimed that they did clear the cmos before it happened.

Usually I don't mind testing bugs, but this is a bug I don't want to have to test

[Lsdmeasap]

Clearing the CMOS should correct it theoretically, but due to how clearing the CMOS can leave settings and or profiles behind in P67, it's hard to say if that user fully cleared the CMOS or only partially which is what happens most of the time unless you purposefully do an extended clear which wipes the CMOS completely. So he probably did a short clear CMOS, leaving some older things in tact, and or along with that used an old profile.

Hard to say without being there to see it happen. I could test clearing CMOS and then using this BIOS in question, but I already know the outcome of a fully cleared CMOS or flashing via the methods I suggest, and this wouldn't happen in either of those instances so it would be a waste of time really so I wont test. I have no problem testing, but I'd have to re-insulate my board and set it up on phase, and since I know how to and how not to make the bug happen it would kind of be pointless for me to setup and test.

[Lsdmeasap]

CPU-Z 1.57.1

ftp://ftp.cpuid.com/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.57.1-setup-en.exe

-fix bug for Gigabyte B3 boards.
-added "Dual Channels" notification.

Got Zip?

[Falkentyne]

Lsd,
I've always lost all of my profiles when I clear the CMOS. Everything is reset and the CPU is reset to running at 35x100 even though the BIOS shows 34x100, it has 4 cores turbo active. But I make sure I unplug the power supply before pressing the clear CMOS button. It has worked every time,including that one time when I set power/amp limit to 35W once (because I was bored) and the PC kept freezing at the CPUID string repeatedly and restarting after 20 seconds (or just freezing forever); even the RESET button didn't work. But Clear CMOS with power off/plugged worked like a charm.

Hmm...I went over 1000 posts recently and didn't even notice it...maybe I did it today?

[stasio]

Got Zip?

Not yet.

Lsd,
I've always lost all of my profiles when I clear the CMOS.

I always keep also on FDD (Fat32).

[Lsdmeasap]

Lsd,
I've always lost all of my profiles when I clear the CMOS. Everything is reset and the CPU is reset to running at 35x100 even though the BIOS shows 34x100, it has 4 cores turbo active. But I make sure I unplug the power supply before pressing the clear CMOS button. It has worked every time,including that one time when I set power/amp limit to 35W once (because I was bored) and the PC kept freezing at the CPUID string repeatedly and restarting after 20 seconds (or just freezing forever); even the RESET button didn't work. But Clear CMOS with power off/plugged worked like a charm.

Hmm...I went over 1000 posts recently and didn't even notice it...maybe I did it today?

Yes, because you clear the CMOS fully and properly. Some users do not, and if you leave the board powered on and only clear the CMOS for a short period you can still load saved profiles and old "Current or last known good/last boot, ect" settings are still available as well

[newhit]

Here is how I suggest users to update their BIOSes.
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ash-guide.html

If this procedure is used, and you do not load/use any older saved to media BIOS profiles, you will not see the bug. Profiles can only be loaded from a saved source after flashing using the above method because once you flash and disable keep DMI data they will be erased same as clearing the CMOS.

I'm not able to change my B2 board (which works fine) and so I was wondering about your abhorrence at using @BIOS. I had to use said @BIOS to get away from the old, initial F3 bios as shipped with the board. I'm sorry if I missed anything but will I not need @BIOS again to get into the B3 board bioses?

[stasio]

B2=>B3 and B3=>B2 BIOS is possible only with @BIOS.
Latest version works fine.

[Eldonko]

Here is a review I did for P67A-UD7-B3 if anyone is interested. cheers

Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3 Review

[andressergio]

I'm not able to change my B2 board (which works fine) and so I was wondering about your abhorrence at using @BIOS. I had to use said @BIOS to get away from the old, initial F3 bios as shipped with the board. I'm sorry if I missed anything but will I not need @BIOS again to get into the B3 board bioses?

i did it its very easy, dld latest @BIOS and just put the bios stasio said then u can flash all bioses B3

[andressergio]

Hmm,LLC any level+DVID still bug.
Still testing.

uf so not good to flash this latest ?

[newhit]

B2=>B3 and B3=>B2 BIOS is possible only with @BIOS.
Latest version works fine.

Many thanx for prompt reply (both times ).

I'm now good to go flash that sucker, errrr, I mean update my mbd .

[theoldtimer]

Here is a review I did for P67A-UD7-B3 if anyone is interested. cheers

Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3 Review

Nice review Eldonko.

[sin0822]

I didn't mention clearing CMOS at all after flashing, nor did I mention that doing so at anytime solved or had anything to do with the 1.7V issue.

Not sure what Sin meant, maybe he was sleeping, but loading optimized then clearing the CMOS would be a moot point (I mean no need to set something right before you clear it out?) Sin, when you see this I'm just giving ya a hard time buddy

Nope to all of your questions, that's not at all how I suggest a BIOS to be updated. We have talked about clearing CMOS before, and yes that can help when you are having issues, or could be suggested as a safe practice to get into, but I only use it when issues arise and didn't suggest it having anything to do with flashing BIOSes. Loading optimized sets a few settings to optimal setting, and clears out any old visible or invisible settings that may still be applied from fail safe after the flash (Fail safe is loaded no matter what you choose before the flash).

Here is how I suggest users to update their BIOSes.
http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ash-guide.html

If this procedure is used, and you do not load/use any older saved to media BIOS profiles, you will not see the bug. Profiles can only be loaded from a saved source after flashing using the above method because once you flash and disable keep DMI data they will be erased same as clearing the CMOS.

yea that makes sense lol idk why i said that. It was late lol. You keep me up.

Eldonko, nice job.

[andressergio]

Here is a review I did for P67A-UD7-B3 if anyone is interested. cheers

Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3 Review

very nice Eldonko

[Falkentyne]

Here is a review I did for P67A-UD7-B3 if anyone is interested. cheers

Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3 Review

Very well done review. Hope GB notices it and can someday send you hardware to test.

I noticed your CPU VID was 1.21v at default (same as mine but oddly enough, f3g says its 1.215v and f3 final says 1.21v but sometimes spikes in bios to 1.215v). And both our chips seem to do the same on air (I found 1.455v LLC1->1.416 to 1.28v load to be nice and stable), except yours can do x58 and mine x54 max Waahhh

What's the max your chip can do (on air) with PLL override disabled? X53?

[sin0822]

Very well done review. Hope GB notices it and can someday send you hardware to test.

I noticed your CPU VID was 1.21v at default (same as mine but oddly enough, f3g says its 1.215v and f3 final says 1.21v but sometimes spikes in bios to 1.215v). And both our chips seem to do the same on air (I found 1.455v LLC1->1.416 to 1.28v load to be nice and stable), except yours can do x58 and mine x54 max Waahhh

What's the max your chip can do (on air) with PLL override disabled? X53?

LOL GB didn't supply that board? what? LOL

[OC Nub]

Here is a review I did for P67A-UD7-B3 if anyone is interested. cheers

Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3 Review

Very nice review

Cant wait to get back on the UD7, waiting for RMA from newegg.

[GLENBOY]

cheers stasio b2 board here and now running on b3-4a bios thanks mate

Glen

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/12...67aud73-B2.zip
Posted here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1672

[andressergio]

cheers stasio b2 board here and now running on b3-4a bios thanks mate

Glen

Glen any improvements over F3 ? im on B2 board also flashed to F3

cheers
Sergio

[Eldonko]

Thanks for the nice words on the review, much appreciated. cheers

[andressergio]

well after trying mostly all the combos of LLC i realized that more vdimm was needed to pass prime at LLC7 this bios F3 and latest F8 or F8h as for more vdimm, and the tendency keeps going up...on F7e i needed just 1,66 on F8f 1,68 now on F8 or F3 from B3 1,7 to maintain 2133 C7 at 5ghz, i can pass easy on 1600 C7 or whatever

[nijel]

Memory degradation?
Load F7e again and confirm it.