***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

[Mungri]

I thought the results looked odd, but if its at least similar to the H70 and D14, then its still a lot better than my current cooler.

[p3gaz_001]

@ p3gaz - TBH 4.6 2D/3D (except 06/Vantage) shouldnt be hard to do if your CPU is capable of it. I got mine almost LinX stable at 4.5, then did some 3D including 06/Vantage at 4.5 and ran SPI32M at 4.66GHz on my 990X. On my old 920, benching at 4.6 was harder as I was at the boards BCLK limit without slow mode enabled, but with an EE you are not running out of BCLK. Some not great bloomfields were just a PITA to try those speeds on, I had a couple that would barely do 4.5 bench stable at 1.42v HT off.

Also why do you have PCI-E freq set to 101MHz, that was a trick from back in the day, don't need to increase it with X58 until you are running out of BCLK which at <170 you are not.

Your uncore is very high, your CPU IMC would have to be good to handle that and also DDR3-2000+ ram speeds. My opinion is you are pushing it all too hard and you don't know your gear, ie: what it needs to be stable with 4.5GHz core, what Vtt you need for 4000MHz uncore, and what Vtt you need for 4000MHz uncore plus DDR3-2000MHz. Without knowing where to start, you are going to have a seriously hard time doing everything at once.

Take it slow, do it bit by bit.

Test your CPU with LinX or Prime at say 4.2/4.3/4.4/4.5GHz with low uncore and ram speed. Plot how it scales - this will give you an idea of what it needs for higher speeds.

Test your uncore with lower CPU speed and low ram speed, and note what it requires for various speeds.

After that you will mostly 'know' your cpu.

Then test your ram, with low CPU speed to keep it out of the equation, and keep uncore at 2x ram speed. Keep your QPI data link rate in the safe zone too. Try different combinations of timings at various speeds, for example set 1.65 vdimm, and see how tight you can go on timings testing stability with HCI Memtest (my personal fav for mem testing as it shows up instability very fast) at various speeds, ie: DDR3-1600, DDR3-1800, DDR3-1900 and DDR3-2000 as a minimum.

This can all take a long time, overclocking requires patience and a methodical approach. There's no cookie cutter method when it comes to different mixtures or ram,boards and CPU's with different capabilities. You have to take it slow, start at sensible speeds and test all your components.

1. your RAS to CAS is lower than your CAS, not good. keep 9-9-9 for 2000mhz on mem or try 9-10-9.

2. your RTL and tRL timings are set to auto, you need to set them manually for 2000+mhz on mem otherwise the bios will set too tight of timings on them, other times too loose.

3. 1.6v on the CPU for 4.5ghz is STUPID HIGH. you should try 1.4-1.47v, 1.6 can fry your chip unless your on phased cooling or on LN2.

4. disable your CPU TM function.

5. you've no need to increase ICH PCIE voltage, put it back to auto.

6. your CPU PLL voltage is too high (though within intel's specs) it should be lower to near it's stock of 1.81v or lower.

7. your QPI data link is based on your CPU speed and mem speed. the higher your mem speed is, the higher the data link you'll want in order to have bandwidth to deal with it.

My Opinion: your CPU vcore voltage is way too high and you're also toying with mem speeds that are too high with timings that are too tight. start small and work your way up. also your qpi data link rate is too low for the speeds your going for. high cpu speed, high mem speed and high uncore speed requires higher data link.

ok .... got much work to do .... thanks guys.

and, this card is good for the pci_ex4 ye?

[Nunzi]

how do i know when to add more ioh volts running 200bclk on stock 1.1 volts
thanks

[skuldarin]

ok .... got much work to do .... thanks guys.

and, this card is good for the pci_ex4 ye?

x1 you mean, and yes if you've got the room for it. though honestly i don't see a need for a soundcard as the onboard chipset audio is more than capable of any gamer or normal use needs... could probably get away with a decent recording settup aswell with the optical out aswell.

getting a sound card to releave stress off the chipset and cpu was something you did back in the day of win95 to the beginings of winXP. but with the power of chipsets and CPUs today it's really not an issue.

how do i know when to add more ioh volts running 200bclk on stock 1.1 volts
thanks

honestly i've never needed more than about 1.13-1.15v, 1.13 being the sweet point. as you start to go higher, your display will tend to just shut off on you it seems and it's quite annoying and it's even caused my BIOS to freeze during post.

unless you're running something around 7.5G on the data link i don't think you need to worry about it much. others can correct me if i'm wrong but i found no reason to increase IOH voltage unless qpi data link speeds were 7.5+

[p3gaz_001]

x1 you mean, and yes if you've got the room for it. though honestly i don't see a need for a soundcard as the onboard chipset audio is more than capable of any gamer or normal use needs... could probably get away with a decent recording settup aswell with the optical out aswell.

getting a sound card to releave stress off the chipset and cpu was something you did back in the day of win95 to the beginings of winXP. but with the power of chipsets and CPUs today it's really not an issue.

well now i have that audio card on my rig, between 3rd & 4th red slot. since i'm about to get a second gpu card and , off course i need to use slot 1/3 i i need space below the 3° pci-ex16x



so i was asking if that audio card could work on the black slot signed in the pic ....

i agree that the integrated audio card is good. but not enough for my ears.

[skuldarin]

hey, come to think of it, did anyone find out what the PLL ClockGen codec is? i'd like to monitor the behavior between base clock, dram, pci-e and pci with setFSB if it's got the R3E's clockgen.

[Nunzi]

x1 you mean, and yes if you've got the room for it. though honestly i don't see a need for a soundcard as the onboard chipset audio is more than capable of any gamer or normal use needs... could probably get away with a decent recording settup aswell with the optical out aswell.

getting a sound card to releave stress off the chipset and cpu was something you did back in the day of win95 to the beginings of winXP. but with the power of chipsets and CPUs today it's really not an issue.



honestly i've never needed more than about 1.13-1.15v, 1.13 being the sweet point. as you start to go higher, your display will tend to just shut off on you it seems and it's quite annoying and it's even caused my BIOS to freeze during post.



unless you're running something around 7.5G on the data link i don't think you need to worry about it much. others can correct me if i'm wrong but i found no reason to increase IOH voltage unless qpi data link speeds were 7.5+

Thanks for the reply..... going to leave it @1.15v

[skuldarin]

well now i have that audio card on my rig, between 3rd & 4th red slot. since i'm about to get a second gpu card and , off course i need to use slot 1/3 i i need space below the 3° pci-ex16x


so i was asking if that audio card could work on the black slot signed in the pic ....

i agree that the integrated audio card is good. but not enough for my ears.

yes the card should work there as it is a pci-e 1x. the slot circled is 4x, but the 1x will work in it just fine. it'll just have a few pin spots left over.

[p3gaz_001]

yes the card should work there as it is a pci-e 1x. the slot circled is 4x, but the 1x will work in it just fine. it'll just have a few pin spots left over.

ye i knew that was pci ex4, u tried to correct me when i was right

btw thanks, i'm gonna get the audio card and swap away this , i'm always happy when is time for upgrades.

[Mungri]

Yes thats the slot I have my sound card in as well, it leaves you with a 3 slot spacing for two graphics cards like so:



You can also use triple graphics cards in the top 3 slots, and a sound card in the bottom 16x slot, the slot layout is absolutely perfect on this board for running multiple GPUs with a soundcard.

I'll be changing my cooler soon as I mentioned earlier, and I'm going to have to use my Antec tricool fans instead of my silent coolermaster ones to improve airflow for the h2o cooler.

I'm thinking of having the top fan blow inwards to bring in cool air over the radiator and rear exhaust fan. The Triton 88 doesnt work any better with higher RPM fans as I just tried with my earlier results, it still goes over 90 degrees with 4.2 Ghz.

[zoson]

4.2ghz
24x175bclk
3.5ghz uncore
6.314ghz qpi
6gb 2.1ghz memory
~81GFlops

[skuldarin]

4.2ghz
24x175bclk
3.5ghz uncore
6.314ghz qpi
6gb 2.1ghz memory
~81GFlops

that's not too shabby, you able to increase the mem speed a little more? 9-11-9-27 seems really loose for 1333 speed.

[Hondacity]

that's not too shabby, you able to increase the mem speed a little more? 9-11-9-27 seems really loose for 1333 speed.

he mentioned 2.1ghz... its not 1333

[xarot]

depends on the card's PCIE speed requirements. if i remember correctly, the last channel (when using 3-way sli) is turned into a 8x PCIE lane instead of 16. so currently you're running 8x / 8x / 16x with your 3-way sli (according to the owner manual). your last slot will be 8x by default.

In quad-crossfire I think the lanes would be split into x8/x8/x8/x8 so with 3-way SLI, I might get x8/x8/x8 + x8 lane for the last slot if it's occupying a sound card. The X58 has 32 lanes by default without nF200? Specs for the sound card:

Compatible with X1, X4, X8, X16 PCI Express slots

So it would use only X1. What would this do to the 3-way SLI lanes? x8/x8/x8?

EDIT: X58 has 36 lanes according to wikipedia. This would mean that the last slot is x4?

[Mungri]

Yay, lovely cooler for just £46:

[nowakjan2000]

BIOS 1208 is out:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-1208.zip
No changelog.

[spoolindsm127]

2045MHz 8-8-8-24-1T-98 for Vdimm 1.508v-1.515v

Exactly my reaction! Going for 2085MHz now

For real! That's super tight and great latency there!

Thank you . The "magic" came from turning off LLC completely.

BIOS 1208 is out:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-1208.zip
No changelog.

Reallly hope this contains the firmware updates *fingers crossed*

[skuldarin]

he mentioned 2.1ghz... its not 1333

i was looking at his CPU tweaker. says mem speed 666 but i suppose thats rated or supported speed. i see the 1051mhz below that though i don't use tweaker so...

BIOS 1208 is out:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/LG...-ASUS-1208.zip
No changelog.

does 1208 have tRL's with it now over 1207?

[nowakjan2000]

i was looking at his CPU tweaker. says mem speed 666 but i suppose thats rated or supported speed. i see the 1051mhz below that though i don't use tweaker so...



does 1208 have tRL's with it now over 1207?

haven`t checked yet

[spoolindsm127]

i was looking at his CPU tweaker. says mem speed 666 but i suppose thats rated or supported speed. i see the 1051mhz below that though i don't use tweaker so...

For some reason I don't like using CPU Tweaker.

That speed you saw is the JEDEC specification or standard of that memory. Don't really know the details but the JEDEC guys say what is the highest official ddr3 module speed. My sticks show the same spec speed, 667MHz (PC3-10700). But that's because our sticks are older. The most up to date ones are officially spec'd to PC3-17000 I believe.

does 1208 have tRL's with it now over 1207?

Just flashed to 1208 for a quick check. From the looks of it, it's exactly the same as 1207. No tRL settings . And it also has the same build date as bios 0003, which I thought Bios 1208 was the official version of.

Well anyways, some more memory overclocking

(Load)

Vcore 1.263v-1.27v

VTT 1.389v-1.402v

Vdimm 1.508v-1.515v

2085MHz 8-8-8-24-1T-98

[zoson]

CPU Tweaker is primarily a memory tweaking program. It shows you EVERYTHING, and more, that CPUZ shows you, except vCore.
The main difference, and the reason why I like it, is that CPU Tweaker shows you all the information on a single page, instead of broken into several tabs.

The actual speeds that everything is running at is in the "Frequency" section. It also shows the detailed memory information so people can see my exact extended memory timings and use it to help them get high frequency overclocks on memory.

How are you getting tRFC 98 spool? Is it 'auto' ? I can choose 90, then it skips to 100...
I also tried very hard to get 2.1ghz with cas 8, but I couldn't get stability, and my mem is already at 1.65v... I know everyone says that I can set my vDDR to vQPI + .47v, but I've been stopping at 1.65v since I haven't seen any actual Intel documentation supporting the theory...
I did get booted into windows at 2.2ghz with cas 9, but didn't have time to stabilize it last night.
And yes, I'm doing all of this with IC modules with JEDEC 1333, but they are XMP 1600 6-8-6-24-72-1T.

I also took my board up to 217bclk without slow mode yesterday, but that needs more work too...

I still am wondering how to fix the >9gb problem with linx that tanks my Gflops...

Also, can I suggest that people use thumbnails on the forum instead of posting full width pictures? It makes the forum so annoying to read!!!

[Deboyzfun]

Yes, Finally the sata option rom has been updated to 10.1.0.1008

[nowakjan2000]

Yes, Finally the sata option rom has been updated to 10.1.0.1008

Yes, but when I install the latest official intel RST drivers (10.1.0.1008) it hangs at boot logo. No probs with 9.6.0.1014 thou.

[tistou77]

which is what "the sata option rom" check in the bios?

[tistou77]

in bios, what is the option "Onboard SATA Controller" in the Advanced/Onboard Device Configuration?

thanks