Japan quakes

[NEOAethyr]

Indeed, would could use a bit more radiation in our dialy lives .

[pcwhisperer]

The logical conclusion would be to ask our goverments to blow a few plants so our level drops too ?
Zapping on tv, a newsreader : but one would have to drink the whole ocean before health is affected.

Aah our trustworty masters, don't they realise this fine and transparent communication ads to the resistence

Thanx for that european level link dctokyo , appreciated.

@dctokyo

Just want to say regarding my previous post, i wanne put it in context.
I've had just switched off tv, where that insulting statement was made about drinking the whole ocean before health could become a concern.

Then i came online and readed your post, with my brain still in maximum disgust mode about no info can be trusted. The idea that japan levels where below world average seemed as logic as tjernobyl being the healthiest place to be pregnant. Somehow missed the Tokyo detail...And responded accordingly thinking they where lying to you/us again ...

My bad

[Gamekiller]

Any new information that hasn't been shared? I was using this thread to stay up to date but it seems to have gone quiet.

[Dr_Swizz]

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/as...913998830.html
http://rt.com/news/radioactive-water-pacific-plant/
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...250664111.html

[NEOAethyr]

Thanks for the heads up.
The news seems to run along with what I've been thinking this whole time.

[Think]

1000 of tones of radioactive water that will stay contaminated for 300 years. This is not good.

[PaganII]

Odd that they use tons to count the water. Usually liquids are measured in gallons/liters except when carried in aircraft (tons of fuel, tons per hour rate) where the pilot needs to calculate weight and balance. I guess it sounds less than 2,200,000 gallons.

[SEA]

Odd that they use tons to count the water. Usually liquids are measured in gallons/liters except when carried in aircraft (tons of fuel, tons per hour rate) where the pilot needs to calculate weight and balance. I guess it sounds less than 2,200,000 gallons.

Still it is hard to say in gallons without calculator. I think only few countries use gallons for volume. Usually it is cubic meters or tons for water.

[vitaminc]

Odd that they use tons to count the water. Usually liquids are measured in gallons/liters except when carried in aircraft (tons of fuel, tons per hour rate) where the pilot needs to calculate weight and balance. I guess it sounds less than 2,200,000 gallons.

Contaminated waters might very likely to have different density than natural salt water.

[Dave_Sz]

it looks like the President of the power company has been hospitalized due to high blood pressure.
anyone wanna take a guess why he has high blood pressure?


one more question.
whose bright idea was it to put a nuke plant next to an ocean in a known earthquake area

Funny, my mother brought up the same exact question after listening to this one schmuck on the radio. You two must have the same taste in news radio.

As for the blood pressure, most of the elderly japan-born men I know have high blood pressure. Sodium will do that to you.

[saaya]

The release of water was inevitable, lol what???
They didn't even tell anybody how contaminated the water is and what isotope it contains... they released it without informing any neighbouring countries... the highest contamination level measured in sea water was 5.6 MILLION times the legal limit ffs! Honestly, if it were up to me the united nations should take over fukushima NOW before the corrupt Japanese gov and tepco cause even more damage!
They still don't know wth is going on inside the blown up reactors a MONTH later.
They can't even measure the radiation levels inside of those reactors cause they only go up to 100msv and radiation is way higher... its off the charts of the installed equipment...
I've had enough of their incompetence!
This is not even a national issue anymore, its regional now and affecting other countries, the one I'm currently in included!

There have been protest marches in Tokyo with hundreds of people! This is in Japan! It's like 10000 people protesting in Europe... Japanese people are furious according to some friends here with relatives living in Japan.

And tepco actually plans to continue as a normal company after this is over and doesn't want to get dismantled... pure greed! They tried to shut up local communities by paying them 10$ per resident living close to fukushima... wtf?
How about using that money to rent storage tanks to pump the radioactive water into, instead of pouring it into one of the worlds richest fishing grounds?

If in my opinion this is nothing short of a crime against humanity and those guys belong in jail... NOW! Before they can cause any more harm...

[Buckeye]

They tried to shut up local communities by paying them 10$ per resident living close to fukushima... wtf?

Yeah I saw that on CNN yesterday, they said $12.50 per person. The town mayor or what ever they are called said no way. The offer of $12.50 is pretty shameful.

[deathman20]

$12.50..... put million at the end of that total at least per person!

[saaya]

$12.50..... put million at the end of that total at least per person!

then half the population would desert fukushima lol...
which would actually be smart i think :/

[krogen]

Will there be some kind of relocation plan? For that people, that is? Or is that not needed?

[vitaminc]

Will there be some kind of relocation plan? For that people, that is? Or is that not needed?

Dont think they are even sending supplies to the disaster areas due to radiation fears.

Only small scale evacuation plan currently. Relocation? On $10 per head? No way.

[saaya]

Contamination of sea water at the water INTAKE to the plant are 140.000 above limits today, half as much as yesterday but it should have been much lower as they fixed the leak... or so they think...

Pressure in reactor1 continues to rise, they are using super cooled nitrogen gas to cool the reactor. They are worried there might be yet another hydrogen explosion. The fuel rods are only half covered with water.

The evacuation zone around fukushima may be increased from 20km to 40km or even more

But as always, everything is fine

[saaya]

7.4 quake hits sendai, 2m tsunami hit the coast, all local nuclear power plants shut down, 2 of them lost external power and are running on diesel backup generators

Fears of the quake having further damaged containment vessels of fukushima

[Gilgamesh]

This time, it's a big quake compared to last days :

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...sa.php#details

[vitaminc]

Still sounds like an aftershock compare to the 9.0.

[NEOAethyr]

Japan is considering increasing the severity of the nuclear disaster in Fukushima to level 7, the same as Chernobyl, amidst ongoing radioactive leakage and the doubling in size of the evacuation zone.

Hourly radioactive leakage from the plant is being estimated to have reached a maximum of 10,000 terabecquerels. The scale of total leakage is not yet known.

For comparison, the total leakage of radioactive iodine from Chernobyl is estimated at 1.8 million terabecquerels (at a rate of 10,000TBq/h, this could be reached in a week), with a further 380 terabecquerels of strontium and plutonium contamination.

Accordingly, the government is considering elevated the International Nuclear and Radiological Event Scale scale of the disaster from 6 to 7, the highest level possible and the level assigned to Chernobyl.

Although recovery efforts at the plant have survived several powerful aftershocks, Tepco have already dumped huge amounts of radioactive coolant into the sea whilst various parts of the core apparently remain open to the atmosphere.

The government is also increasing the size of the 20km evacuation zone around the plant to 30km after new data showed radiation levels increasing towards unhealthy levels, although in fact evacuation orders for areas as far away as 40km have been issued.

The indirect effects of the crisis also continue to mount – the government’s efforts to cover up the extent of radioactive contamination of the region’s agricultural produce is now in danger of causing a national food scare.

Rather than simply ban agricultural produce from the region, in an effort to preserve the reputation of the areas affected the government has increased the allowable radiation in the area’s rice crop by a factor of ten.

Additionally, it has emerged that when regional milk producers had their produce tested for radiation, rather than be tested individually they were allowed to dilute their milk with less radioactive milk from other areas.

As a result of these measures there is now concern that consumers worried (generally unreasonably) about contamination will feel they are unable to trust any food sold in eastern Japan, as apart from home cooking there is no practical way of knowing whether such food includes contaminated ingredients.

Short of an actual nuclear explosion (thankfully regarded as a near impossibility), it is hard to see how matters could be much worse.

What really gets me is why these zone's weren't evacuated long ago.
The people should of been quarantined, and I think they usually sandblast peeps in quarantine..., I could not find info on it but I've seen it in a video somewhere.
Whatever I guess...

I saw on the news some time ago that they quarantined a plane and it's passengers that came out of japan in some other country.
Some countries are probably doing that with all planes that come out of japan now.
I would be doing the same...

[Face]

You guys seen this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9iJ...layer_embedded

Creepy..

[Buckeye]

You guys seen this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9iJ...layer_embedded

Creepy..

WoW more than creepy. Those guys are crazy.
Very scary stuff to see this

[saaya]

fukushima has been upgraded from level5 to level7
The same level as chernobyl
Something dozens of so called experts said was IMPOSSIBLE
Definition of level 7 is a MASSIVE release of radioactive material affecting an entire region.

Fukushima will probably become a ghost town with nobody returning to their homes... ever..

But don't worry, all is fine...

[Sparky]

The hate is strong in this thread.

Word to the wise: don't build nuke plants on or near fault lines... Although I'm not sure what options Japan really had, since Japan IS a fault line pretty much and there aren't very many options for the power density they need.