GTX 590 reviews

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@RSC

I dont know any 120hz IPS monitors,i heard LG makes one.
But what it has to do with anything i said in that part of my post ?
Its not a counter argument, youre just manipulating to get one thing that doesnt fit, ignoring all the other factors.
You said earlier that in the process of buying monitors people doesnt use logic, they dont buy best of the best ,and they dont go for the highest res.So in your opinion theyre not taking into account any highest specs.
And now youre telling me only monitors worth playing at are 120hz TN`s.Which is bull, but thats beside the point.And is totally irrelevant, unless of course you can provide me with a statistic that 120hz TN below 1920x monitors are the majority for dual gpu cards enthusiasts
And yes, i am narrowing a field.I build pc`s as a hobby and a side business.
There are two types of people who buy high end GFX.
A) Enthusiasts, they DO know what and why theyre buying.So their decision is knowledge and logic based, they usually own high end monitors (even CRT`s) ,they use their pc for work and gaming.High res.
B) People with loads of cash who want the highest numbers on everything, they get big high res monitors so a builder can make more money and they have bragging rights.

If a enthusiast has small res monitor he knows he doesnt need dual gpu monster.
Loads od cash people dont get cheap monitors cause they arent big ,expensive and look crap.

Comparing any card to any card is a logical ( i know, nobody uses logic) way of determining a) performance delta and b) gains from moving forward/backward, comparing between friends, explaining "the gain" to a customer etc etc.

1- In five resolutions tested, it won three, tied one and lost one. That makes it more well rounded.

It doesnt make it "all round" better tho, but "more well rounded" if you want to use such weird wording.I would say it wins some and loses some, or wins in low res and loses in high res.

No i havent seen many 6990 overvolted or blow up.Has to make you wonder why does it ?Ati world conspiracy ? Masons ? Or maybe 590 is more prone to that.I gues we will never know.

As for the eyefinity, yes it seems while single screen AMD with higher res gains, in multi monitor setup nvidia has some trick up its sleeve to remain competetive.It doesnt destroy 6990 in any way tho.

[Dami3n]

Most of the 6990s dead are samples and retail cards with the "special" thermal paste removed for naked shots. In the shop where i buy my stuff they have the same RMA rate of the 5970 or gtx580.

[Lanek]

404 .. can you repost the complete link ? ( no need i have use search on their forum )

[E.R]

Let me help you understand what I mean.

SLI scaling in crysis is 85%. But in metro it is 64%.
CF scaling in crysis is 77%. But in metro it is 80%

By scaling I mean how much extra performance is gained by adding 100% extra (one more) graphics cards. SLI is unusually bad in metro. This explains why reviewers are complaining about GTX 590 performing well in some games, but bad in others like metro. The SLI scaling is bad.

Look at the anandtech numbers yourself. GTX 580 beats 6970 in metro. But when you SLI it, it loses.

crysis numbers: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4239/36042.png
metro numbers: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4239/36049.png

CONCLUSION: SLI SCALING = BAD IN METRO AND STALKER

Correct me if i am wrong but it smells Vramlimit as hardwarecanuck show over 82% and metro2033 uses over 1,4GB in 2560x1600 with light settings and anand uses more AA right? so if they used the 3GB in reviews it would be more interesting as the limit would not be a factor that can impact to mutch even on highest setting as Metor dont uses 3GB in 2560x1600.

[DarthShader]

TechReport does MythBusters:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20677

Expect this to be cited around a lot.

The Editor in Chief of Overclockers Club, Bosco, already said that one of their samples also died recently and that he knows of four more dead 6990 and two other that are having problems.

To bad he didn't report about it earlier... did the blowing GTX590's make him remember about that? (If he did, then please link)

[RSC]

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To bad he didn't report about it earlier... did the blowing GTX590's make him remember about that? (If he did, then please link)

He brought it up when someone posted a list of GTX590 that had died. Just for the record the person in question, according to his sig., has two 6970 in CF, so he is not a suspect of being a green fanboy.


PS: The earlier link I posted was broken. Here's the link again.

[cowie]

TechReport does MythBusters:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20677

Expect this to be cited around a lot.


To bad he didn't report about it earlier... did the blowing GTX590's make him remember about that? (If he did, then please link)

he did when it blowed with update in his review before this happened.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...tilles/18.html

whats up with this specail thermal paste that cant be changed? that metal stuff you put on both sides cus thats sounds to be reaching a bit.

[cegras]

God RSC, read Wizzard's post then just, just stop.

[RSC]

he did when it blowed with update in his review before this happened.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...tilles/18.html

whats up with this specail thermal paste that cant be changed? that metal stuff you put on both sides cus thats sounds to be reaching a bit.

He's not talking about that. He's talking about Bosco's post @ Overclockers Club forums.

[cold2010]

A note on rumors about GTX 590 issues

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20677TechReport

[bamtan2]

Correct me if i am wrong but it smells Vramlimit as hardwarecanuck show over 82% and metro2033 uses over 1,4GB in 2560x1600 with light settings and anand uses more AA right? so if they used the 3GB in reviews it would be more interesting as the limit would not be a factor that can impact to mutch even on highest setting as Metor dont uses 3GB in 2560x1600.

the memory has nothing to do with the sli scaling I am talking about. any damage done by low memory is done to both configurations, the single and the sli. the performance gained by sli is lower than the performance gained by crossfire. but only in some games.

[cowie]

He's not talking about that. He's talking about Bosco's post @ Overclockers Club forums.

he said
To bad he didn't report about it earlier... did the blowing GTX590's make him remember about that? (If he did, then please link

bosco was the reviewer at neoseeker
in his update on the 6990 he said it died..that was before 590 reviews were out so i linked it.

[RSC]

Bosco (AKA Dave Rattray) is the Editor in Chief of Overclockers Club. The guy who did the Neoseeker review is Chris Ledenican...

[cowie]

Bosco (AKA Dave Rattray) is the Editor in Chief of Overclockers Club. The guy who did the Neoseeker review is Chris Ledenican...

well i thuoght he helped with testing??
ok then

[kromosto]

i like what nvidia trying to do with fermi. but saying 590 an innovative card is very hard.

i cant confess it to myself but i think i am a nvidia lover not a fanboy but when i go for buying a graphics card if i found two all same vgas from ati and nvidia i am sure i prefer nvidia without thinking.
but not blind eyed to get what is not good. now i am with a 5870 and waiting for a nvidia card to change it but

sorry for nvidia lovers but it is obvious that 590 is not the card we are expecting from them.

[SabreWulf69]

I was looking forward to this but not being the card I expected it to be, I think I'm just going to get an EVGA GTX 460 '2WIN' card instead at an MSRP of $429.99.

[E.R]

the memory has nothing to do with the sli scaling I am talking about. any damage done by low memory is done to both configurations, the single and the sli. the performance gained by sli is lower than the performance gained by crossfire. but only in some games.

It is not lower, just differtent than in that anand review as hardwarecanuck shows other things and in same leauge as CF in same game as anandtech.

[memmem]

SLI/CF scaling depends only from drivers and GPUS? Or are there other hardware components that can affect it?

[deathman20]

Does anyone have an actual screen shot showing the lower clocks with the updated driver?

[Final8ty]

AthlonXP [H]ardForum Junkie, 9.5 Years

Status: AthlonXP is online now
A Shameful Display this card has been, mine just died on me!! Was playing Shogun 2 and all of a sudden the screen went blank and heard a loud pop. Going to test all my other hardware out but so far I am back up with a GTX 465 just fine. Going to put back in my XFX 6970's

Heck now and the place where it has the smoking crap is where the backplate is unfortunately... I called EVGA and they are going to get me a replacement. Going then sell that mofo...

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?...post1037046423

[initialised]

SLI/CF scaling depends only from drivers and GPUS? Or are there other hardware components that can affect it?

CPU type, speed, motherboard, PCI-Ex lane distribution, FSB/BCLK speed.

[Lanek]

http://www.kitguru.net/components/gr...ir-reputation/

Updated GTX590 BIOS rushed out to repair reputation

[Sherman Tank]

SKYMTL, will Hardware Canucks be revisiting the GTX 590 when the new bios is released?
Because already, what with all the countless driver revisions, your original review is so outdated it will be misleading potential customers, the card being advertised just isn't the card being sold anymore!

[bamtan2]

SKYMTL, will Hardware Canucks be revisiting the GTX 590 when the new bios is released?
Because already, what with all the countless driver revisions, your original review is so outdated it will be misleading potential customers, the card being advertised just isn't the card being sold anymore!

you cant fool adults with your garbage.

countless driver revisions?

outdated and misleading review?

[Sherman Tank]

you cant fool adults with your garbage.

countless driver revisions?

outdated and misleading review?

Huh, what bit isn't true?