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[andressergio]

Nothing I'm aware of & in that respect everythings good but I have always used C1E/Eist & would like to use it again to reduce power use & temps when the rig is at idle.

C-N after you OC and test for stable 24/7 you enable EIST and CE1 states ? doesnt affect when gamming ? i tested on other system and i had stutters as CPU was changing speed constant, i guess games are not prepared for that, but i just want to have your opinion.

Cheers
Sergio

[TheHardCase]

C-N after you OC and test for stable 24/7 you enable EIST and CE1 states ? doesnt affect when gamming ? i tested on other system and i had stutters as CPU was changing speed constant, i guess games are not prepared for that, but i just want to have your opinion.

Cheers
Sergio

I'm a huge gamer, sounds like memory or cpu too low on volts...

[andressergio]

I'm a huge gamer, sounds like memory or cpu too low on volts...

thanks mate no i tried before on other mobos not on X58 not on this, i will try again so u using CE1 and EIST and game a lot ?

[C-N]

C-N after you OC and test for stable 24/7 you enable EIST and CE1 states ? doesnt affect when gamming ? i tested on other system and i had stutters as CPU was changing speed constant, i guess games are not prepared for that, but i just want to have your opinion.

Cheers
Sergio

Exactly Sergio, get it nice & stable then switch it on. I have always used the power saving features & never had any issues at all provided it works properly in the first place. I'm not saying its not working on the UD5 but the voltage spikes too high under load with Level 1 & its useless with std due to the drop & droop. The voltage spikes higher than Level 1 does with a set vcore & IMO Level 1 overvolts too much anyway so any way I look at it, it aint good.

[andyr(uk)]

Does anyone else have there windows experience index not working ? It hasn't worked on mine since i installed on day 1

[the_real_7]

Exactly Sergio, get it nice & stable then switch it on. I have always used the power saving features & never had any issues at all provided it works properly in the first place. I'm not saying its not working on the UD5 but the voltage spikes too high under load with Level 1 & its useless with std due to the drop & droop. The voltage spikes higher than Level 1 does with a set vcore & IMO Level 1 overvolts too much anyway so any way I look at it, it aint good.

so C - N or you saying you don't use ll1 ? cause it spikes to high after bouncing back up from droop on the load

[C-N]

so C - N or you saying you don't use ll1 ? cause it spikes to high after bouncing back up from droop on the load

Yes I do use level 1 as std drop/droops 0.1v too much imo.

No not the increase/spike from unload to load.

Level 1 overvolts a bit & compounded by the overvolt from the bios setting looks bad i.e set 1.335 get 1.356 in windows 1.38 under load .045 increase this should be better/less & simply put GB should at least re hash the numbers in bios to match windows. Not easy maybe but other boards I have used can get it right.... sometimes with several goes & on one a DFI, they even put a user adjustable value in bios to correct it.

Level 1 vcore set normal with or without dvid you get even more overvolt under load compounded even more the more vcore you add as some chips need 1.35 / 1.45 even 1.55 to do 5G.

Level 2..... forget it it spikes so much the rig reboots under load!!

[OC Nub]

Yes I do use level 1 as std drop/droops 0.1v too much imo.

No not the increase/spike from unload to load.

Level 1 overvolts a bit & compounded by the overvolt from the bios setting looks bad i.e set 1.335 get 1.356 in windows 1.38 under load .045 increase this should be better/less & simply put GB should at least re hash the numbers in bios to match windows. Not easy maybe but other boards I have used can get it right.... sometimes with several goes & on one a DFI, they even put a user adjustable value in bios to correct it.

Level 1 vcore set normal with or without dvid you get even more overvolt under load compounded even more the more vcore you add as some chips need 1.35 / 1.45 even 1.55 to do 5G.

Level 2..... forget it it spikes so much the rig reboots under load!!

Are you testing with a DMM, or going by cpuz or et6? The UD7 doesnt over volt using LLC1, but that is going by et6 and cpuz. I havent tested using a DMM.

[C-N]

Are you testing with a DMM, or going by cpuz or et6? The UD7 doesnt over volt using LLC1, but that is going by et6 and cpuz. I havent tested using a DMM.

I have & wasnt sure about the reading, I went off one of the core chokes as Sin did & I got somewhere like .035 more on the DMM than set in bios at idle.

Anyway for the values I just mentioned they were from ET/CPU-Z which read the same for me.

So you are saying the UD7 you get what you set in bios in ET/CPU-Z under load with level 1?

[sin0822]

here is the thing with that Vread point, its that it doesn't go through the capcitators, there is a voltage read point on the back of the board, but its on the back of the socket, that one is good for a O-Scope reading and shoudl be the same as the choke one with a DMM. There is another one where the error correction for e the PWM is, but that one you don't want to try to hit, its very hard to hit a pin/resistor nexto or on the PWM.

I found with prior BIOSes that LLC1 drops like 20mv under load from what you set so its pretty good. What I will do is do some more testing, but the choke is pretty good, and easy to hit while the PC is on.

I will do some testing tonight becuase I have time. CN what is the new BIOS you used for the LLC testiong?

Even with older BIOSes Vcore was read low/high with cpu-z i forget which is was about a 20mv difference though from the real voltage.

[OC Nub]

I have & wasnt sure about the reading, I went off one of the core chokes as Sin did & I got somewhere like .035 more on the DMM than set in bios at idle.

Anyway for the values I just mentioned they were from ET/CPU-Z which read the same for me.

So you are saying the UD7 you get what you set in bios in ET/CPU-Z under load with level 1?

I have 1.390v set in bios, idle in cpuz and et6 it reads 1.380, load will drop to 1.56v using LLC1.

I miss the easy read points that the EVGA and MSI boards have.

[andressergio]

Exactly Sergio, get it nice & stable then switch it on. I have always used the power saving features & never had any issues at all provided it works properly in the first place. I'm not saying its not working on the UD5 but the voltage spikes too high under load with Level 1 & its useless with std due to the drop & droop. The voltage spikes higher than Level 1 does with a set vcore & IMO Level 1 overvolts too much anyway so any way I look at it, it aint good.

thanks mate i was afraid to set it as you load msn and goes 4800 then rests and go low and all that changes on volts im afraid of

[andressergio]

Exactly Sergio, get it nice & stable then switch it on. I have always used the power saving features & never had any issues at all provided it works properly in the first place. I'm not saying its not working on the UD5 but the voltage spikes too high under load with Level 1 & its useless with std due to the drop & droop. The voltage spikes higher than Level 1 does with a set vcore & IMO Level 1 overvolts too much anyway so any way I look at it, it aint good.

C_N i enabled CE1 / C2 etc and EIST but my vcore remains the same only speed and multy changes

[the_real_7]

C_N i enabled CE1 / C2 etc and EIST but my vcore remains the same only speed and multy changes

sergio hows this working , i would like to also try power savings be nice as i stream to my tvs around the house

[C-N]

C_N i enabled CE1 / C2 etc and EIST but my vcore remains the same only speed and multy changes

sergio hows this working , i would like to also try power savings be nice as i stream to my tvs around the house

You have to set vcore to normal & add voltage using dvid... e.g if you need say 1.3v under load & your vid/normal is 1.2 you need to add .1 using dvid.

Be a little careful with setting these voltages UD7 looks better then 5 but I get more of a voltage overshoot under load than I do just setting vcore & level1... also vid moves about depending on core speed so not always 1.2v & its this I am moaning about on UD5....

Edit....

Thanks Sin that mos leg was right & measures .03 more than set in bios so well worth checking.

[andressergio]

You have to set vcore to normal & add voltage using dvid... e.g if you need say 1.3v under load & your vid/normal is 1.2 you need to add .1 using dvid.

Be a little careful with setting these voltages UD7 looks better then 5 but I get more of a voltage overshoot under load than I do just setting vcore & level1... also vid moves about depending on core speed so not always 1.2v & its this I am moaning about on UD5....

Edit....

Thanks Sin that mos leg was right & measures .03 more than set in bios so well worth checking.

thanks bud either way when CPU and multi went down on idle temps went to 30C and 29C lol so seems fine

**edit the BE CAREFUL is right i put the wrong value and for my calcs must have gave 2volts lol its blocked had to reset CMOS but CPU is alive damn

[jackbrennan2008]

Seeing as there have been a few BIOS floating around lately what BIOS have people found to be the msot stable. At the moment the F7 BIOS is by far the most stable i have tested.

Unfortunatly it doesn't allow PLL overvolting, but i'm only running 4.5Ghz 24/7 so it doesn't matter.

Is f7e still the best overclocking BIOS?

[sin0822]

Edit....

Thanks Sin that mos leg was right & measures .03 more than set in bios so well worth checking.

You are welcome man, yea sorry about that, i went back to find the cpu pll read point from my review, and it read 3.3v, so i thought wait i remember always hitting that capacitor with my probe, so i tried it and i remembered, its the leg lol.

Glad it worked for you, yea it seems the board overvolts it at stock even without CPU pLL overvoltage, but i think other boards do as well.

[andressergio]

i love this UD7 and chip

going up little by little



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cheers all
Sergio