AMD to start Bulldozer AM3+ production by March 2011, launch in April 2011

[Kobaltrock]

I am really wondering why nobody is showing off AM3+ boards, except that one from MSI?

AFAIK, AM3+ will work with the current CPUs, so the delay is what?

[Hornet331]

I am really wondering why nobody is showing off AM3+ boards, except that one from MSI?

AFAIK, AM3+ will work with the current CPUs, so the delay is what?

Milking the cows... as usual.

Why release backward compatible AM3+ boards, when you can sell a AM3 board now and later a AM3+ board for the poor guys who just bought one.

[zalbard]

I am really wondering why nobody is showing off AM3+ boards, except that one from MSI?

AFAIK, AM3+ will work with the current CPUs, so the delay is what?

NDA, most likely.

[mAJORD]

it was the same with AM2+.. boards not appearing till a month or so before release IIRC

[Johnny87au]

Milking the cows... as usual.

Why release backward compatible AM3+ boards, when you can sell a AM3 board now and later a AM3+ board for the poor guys who just bought one.

Yes thats right mate, but wont work the other way around..

[xVeinx]

The processors started sampling late last year. if there aren't enough good engineering samples, then the boards won't be fully optimized for the right processor. The boards are finished, with layouts, heatsinks, and the lot because of compatibility with the previous gen processors and no real change in the chipsets. However, the necessary testing may not be quite complete yet, enough for reliability testing and release. It'll be out soon enough.

[mrcape]

I'm not a AMD hater at all, I have some AMD stuff and loved my old Athlons. It just seems I've been hearing about this Bulldozer for years. Has it been delayed a lot or what?

Here's an article from 2007 -

http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...or-2009-146488

[informal]

I'm not a AMD hater at all, I have some AMD stuff and loved my old Athlons. It just seems I've been hearing about this Bulldozer for years. Has it been delayed a lot or what?

Here's an article from 2007 -

http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...or-2009-146488

That's the 45nm Bulldozer that was canned. This one is a modified version of that design.Faster,better,cheaper .

[mrcape]

That's the 45nm Bulldozer that was canned. This one is a modified version of that design.Faster,better,cheaper .

Oh I see tx, for the info.

[Kuroimaho]

All we have ever said was Q2.

The SSE5 specification, which is being made available to the developer community today at http://developer.amd.com/SSE5, will be implemented in products based on AMD’s next-generation “Bulldozer” core, available in 2009. Link.

Just like, "real man have fabs" right ?

[Apokalipse]

Firstly, JF-AMD is not AMD. He just works there. What one person from AMD says is not automatically what JF-AMD says, and vice-versa.

Secondly, that's and old and outdated quote that was made about 45nm Bulldozer, which is now no-longer being made.

[dartaz]

AMD Reschedules 32nm Product Launch Again: Llano Comes Ahead of Bulldozer.

Advanced Micro Devices this week again reiterated its roadmap for chips to be made using 32nm silicon-on-insulator (SOI) gate-first high-K metal gate (HKMG) process technology. The interim chief exec promised to launch code-named Llano accelerated processing units in Q2 2011, but to delay the highly-expected Bulldozer chips to "summer".

"We have entered a new phase with our 32nm ramp and are now sampling thousands of Llano products to a wide variety of OEMs and ODMs as they prepare for production in Q2," said Thomas Seifert, interim chief executive officer of AMD, during a conference call with financial analysts.

Back in early November it was, reported citing unofficial sources, that AMD would commence commercial manufacturing of code-named Llano accelerated processing units (APUs) for desktops and mobiles in July '11, which is Q3 2011.

Meanwhile, microprocessors with Bulldozer micro-architecture were supposed to hit the mass production sometime in April '11, according to unofficial sources.

"We have begun sampling our 32nm Bulldozer-based Orochi parts in volume with customers worldwide. We expect Orochi for desktops to ship in production in early summer and the Orochi for servers in late summer," said Thomas Seifert, interim chief executive of AMD.

The CEO confirmed that the company had started to ship samples of its microprocessors based on the Bulldozer micro-architecture to customers "in volume". While sampling seems to be on relative schedule, the precise roadmap outlined by the company means delays with mass availability of the chips.

Source
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...Bulldozer.html

So, this mean that bulldozer won't come out in April

[Apokalipse]

Source
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...Bulldozer.html

So, this mean that bulldozer won't come out in April

Wow, you posted literally about 1ms after I did.

[Oliverda]

Source
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...Bulldozer.html

So, this mean that bulldozer won't come out in April

Did AMD say April?

Bulldozer schedules are exactly the same, no change. Q2 for client, Q3 for server.

[Kuroimaho]

Firstly, JF-AMD is not AMD. He just works there. What one person from AMD says is not automatically what JF-AMD says, and vice-versa.

All we have ever said was Q2.

I see, that must have been a majestic plural then.

Secondly, that's and old and outdated quote that was made about 45nm Bulldozer, which is now no-longer being made.

There was that ever word in the sentence if I am not mistaken, that's why I dared to remind him of their first bulldozer promise. This current promised delivery date could be dropped just as that was.

[informal]

Key words : early summer and late summer. In US early summer is usually regarded as beginning of Memorial Day(May 30) while late summer (or end of summer season) is the end of Labor Day(September 5).
Also,how can they be pulling in Llano ahead of BD for desktop when officially AMD stated : H1 for Llano and Q2 for desktop.Now Llano is Q2 intorduction,so still H1, while BD is Q2 (early summer,probably meaning end of May). They are just one or 2 months apart.

[dartaz]

Key words : early summer and late summer. In US early summer is usually regarded as beginning of Memorial Day(May 30) while late summer (or end of summer season) is the end of Labor Day(September 5).
Also,how can they be pulling in Llano ahead of BD for desktop when officially AMD stated : H1 for Llano and Q2 for desktop.Now Llano is Q2 intorduction,so still H1, while BD is Q2 (early summer,probably meaning end of May). They are just one or 2 months apart.

LOL ! What makes you think that it is end of May ?

If it it say early summer that doesn't mean it is going to be the first day of early summer (May 30 as you say). I think June (and maybe July) are considered early summer as well.

[informal]

Read carefully,I said probably.Another key word.
From Bobcat IP to launch was ~2 months or slightly less (IP Nov 2010,launch 2 months later at CES January 6). Zambezi is IP in April.If we take ~2 months as in Bobcat's case,we get to roughly the same time frame which is end of May or beginning of June(still Q2). Computex fits perfectly :

# COMPUTEX 2010 was held June 1 to June 5 2010.
# COMPUTEX 2009 was held June 2 to June 6 2009.
# COMPUTEX 2008 was held June 3 to June 7 2008 and expanded to TWTC Nangang Exhibition Hall.
# COMPUTEX 2007 was held June 5 to June 9 2007.
# COMPUTEX 2006 was held June 6 to June 10 2006.
# COMPUTEX 2005 was held May 31 to June 4 2005, adding a new feature "Buyer's Day".
# COMPUTEX 2004 was held June 1 to June 5 2004

[Apokalipse]

I see, that must have been a majestic plural then.

I was referring specifically to the quote you posted.

There was that ever word in the sentence if I am not mistaken, that's why I dared to remind him of their first bulldozer promise. This current promised delivery date could be dropped just as that was.

It was a different chip planned for 45nm.

[JF-AMD]

The schedules have not changed at all.

Desktop in Q2
Server in Q3

That article is NOT correct, it should not have the word "delay" in it.

There. Can we all just drop this?

[god_43]

The schedules have not changed at all.

Desktop in Q2
Server in Q3

That article is NOT correct, it should not have the word "delay" in it.

There. Can we all just drop this?

llol

[Swingline39]

All I know is that I'm excited to see BD get released and I'm currently planning to do a rebuild in the fall based around the 8 core chip.

[jeremyshaw]

llol

That certainly got the point across. Maybe he should start a thread on this, That way, any ding-dong that wishes to challenge this will have a thread to kick them back into their proper places

[BeepBeep2]

The schedules have not changed at all.

Desktop in Q2
Server in Q3

That article is NOT correct, it should not have the word "delay" in it.

There. Can we all just drop this?

What I want to know is why Desktop is before Server, you guys usually release Server first. Is it because Desktop seems more important as a larger market?

[Oliverda]

Let me guess. Server CPU validation is longer and desktop environment is more errata tolerant. I can imagine that the first server Bulldozer will be a never stepping/revision than the first retail desktop model. See Nehalem C0 and D0 steppings for an example.