MSI AM3+ 990FX Spotted

[Mats]

and did they show am3+ compatibility or a new socket need for komodo??? not yet ... so its still in the air as far as we know ....


so again my first post about the not complaining about the am3+ sockets dead end ...

Komodo needs a new socket BECAUSE it got an integrated GPU, according to two different revisions of AMD slides.
Which part of that don't you understand?

btw compairing server roadmap with client roadmap doesnt mean anything ... server roadmap is one thing .. and client roadmap is another ..

Well obviously, otherwise there would be only one..
However, they're usually not far away from each other in some terms.
What you're suggesting is that Komodo shouldn't have integrated PCIe, which honestly doesn't make sense at all.
Why would AMD do that?

Can you tell me one reason why AMD shouldn't integrate PCIe in Komodo CPU's when the roadmap shows that the server CPU's will get it in 2012, and Intel have by that time been using it in desktop CPU's for 3 years?

I never said I had had any facts, but according to AMD:

C32/G34 was launched ~Q2 2010, and will work with first gen BD, but not second gen 32 nm BD. One obvious reason is integrated PCIe, see #2 and #3 in the post you replied to.

Disclaimer: Komodo is not an APU.

[Sn0wm@n]

Komodo needs a new socket BECAUSE it got an integrated GPU, according to two different revisions of AMD slides.
Which part of that don't you understand?

Well obviously, otherwise there would be only one..
However, they're usually not far away from each other in some terms.
What you're suggesting is that Komodo shouldn't have integrated PCIe, which honestly doesn't make sense at all.
Why would AMD do that?

Can you tell me one reason why AMD shouldn't integrate PCIe in Komodo CPU's when the roadmap shows that the server CPU's will get it in 2012, and Intel have by that time been using it in desktop CPU's for 3 years?

I never said I had had any facts, but according to AMD:

C32/G34 was launched ~Q2 2010, and will work with first gen BD, but not second gen 32 nm BD. One obvious reason is integrated PCIe, see #2 and #3 in the post you replied to.

Disclaimer: Komodo is not an APU.

wich part of it says new socket on a roadmap ?????


wich part of it says am3+ ... none .. so anything is still up for speculation ... but its not set in stones thats all that i said ...

[chew*]

I'm glad MSI listened and staggered the dimm slots.

[jeremyshaw]

Komodo needs a new socket BECAUSE it got an integrated GPU, according to two different revisions of AMD slides.
Which part of that don't you understand?

Well, as for the GPU, for all we know, AM3+ could be simply implementing a passthrough or a frame buffer copy device to the NB's IGP, in that way, mantaining existing compatibility, while also allowing APUs to work

As for PCIe controllers on die, maybe, we'll have to see what AMD decides to do. We don't even know if Intel will keep Socket 2011 with on-die or seperate PCIe controllers

[Oliverda]

I'm glad MSI listened and staggered the dimm slots.

That's right.

[Mats]

wich part of it says new socket on a roadmap ?????

Nowhere, no official doc, AFAIK. As I said on page 2, nothing is set in stone.

It's all about making conclusions out of the few things we know, but you fail to show me any indications that Komodo will work with AM3+, and that's just because there aren't any.

You really don't get it, do you? You don't want to understand, but that's just because of wishful thinking.

I still hope I'm wrong, because I don't wanna swap board again. You just refuse to change your mind. How beautiful.

[FlanK3r]

I'm glad MSI listened and staggered the dimm slots.

??? What do u mean? Slots as dualchannel A1+B1 or...?

[Aussie FX]

Hmm...
Why are all the brand's of mobo makers using those lame round power buttons ?

Does anyone know for sure if am3+ has quad chan support?
If it doesn't then the only thing I'm really interested in is the avx support on the cpu it's self (that would come in real handy).
.

It sounds to me like you are running out of memory capacity not bandwidth.

2Gb barely runs windows these days.

[scorpidragon]

It sounds to me like you are running out of memory capacity not bandwidth.

2Gb barely runs windows these days.

Well, I went from 4Gb to 8Gb and also added a 32GB SSD drive to my computer and with DVD Maker and Windows media player removed and now my computer flies along (after I reinstalled Win7 of course).

[Manicdan]

i was just thinking about the new AM3+ platform and NB speeds

are they expecting to increase the default now that a newer platform is coming out?

all NB speeds have been 2ghz, but we know that 2.4ghz is reachable with any chip. so maybe BD could be based around like 2.6/2.8ghz and every 9xx platform is being built for such speeds, since they dont have to worry about people putting a BD into an old weak 8xx/7xx board.

[NEOAethyr]

It sounds to me like you are running out of memory capacity not bandwidth.

2Gb barely runs windows these days.

You try running blackman resize 1080p 4 tap along with a bunch of filters, frame rate conversion, audio rate upsampling and supereq...
Even without messing with the video in any way it's still to slow to pull off supereq.

I can set blackman resize to upscale to that res on my 1090t, use 100% of my availible mem and it's fine.
If I use certain filtes it's slow though, even if I don't upscale.
Supereq doesn't even use all of my mem, and the fps is something like 1-5fps if that, only 50% of my dual core at 2.9ghz being used for supereq...(edit: oh duh it's probably stuck using all of one core..., I wasn't thinking of that, maybe that needs an extremely fast cpu more then 4.5ghz...)

It needs more balls in some way or another...
Thinking quad chan might help.
That's all .

[Sn0wm@n]

Nowhere, no official doc, AFAIK. As I said on page 2, nothing is set in stone.

It's all about making conclusions out of the few things we know, but you fail to show me any indications that Komodo will work with AM3+, and that's just because there aren't any.

You really don't get it, do you? You don't want to understand, but that's just because of wishful thinking.

I still hope I'm wrong, because I don't wanna swap board again. You just refuse to change your mind. How beautiful.

why would i need to show proof that komodo will work for am3+ if you agree that nothing is set in stones ...

[Hanjin]

I'm really liking the look of that board.

[Mats]

why would i need to show proof that komodo will work for am3+ if you agree that nothing is set in stones ...

You don't need to do anything, including replying to me, but you did.
It's not my problem that it takes two weeks for you to read my post.

You asked me what I based my conclusions on, and I answered.

I asked you to do the same. You didn't. My bet is that you can't!

[Sn0wm@n]

You don't need to do anything, including replying to me, but you did.
It's not my problem that it takes two weeks for you to read my post.

You asked me what I based my conclusions on, and I answered.

I asked you to do the same. You didn't. My bet is that you can't!

LOLL what sort of reply is this???


out of answers allready


and btw i allready answered that post

[FlanK3r]

still waiting at enxt mobos...example Crosshair V Extreme .

[DedEmbryonicCe1]

PCSX2 already runs great on my 1090T aside from the usual bugs/compatibility issues with some games. I don't think any Bulldozer chips will be a bottleneck for that emulator. The only people I see complaining about performance with Deneb/Thuban in the forums are those running at stock or a light overclock.