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    LOL I must admit that's pretty funny. Probably not to the AMD employees filing off the corners though! :p

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    Now I want to get a retail card just to see...


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    at least they were able to fix all those cards; just think of it: they've built 1000s of cards and have no way to get rid of them until partners start to use custom coolers

    @sin0822: i guss that they already built ALOT of PCBs so moving the connector isn't an option...

    now place your bets on how they are going to fix it:
    redesign of the PCB
    redesign of the cooler
    new custom connectors with angled corners

    i think that the cooler manufacturer screwed up, judging by the baseplate they had correct keep out areas form AMD but forgot about the fan...
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    Incredible
    Double checked all the reviews and yepp sure enough everyone has it, oddly some took shots of the die and pcb but not the power connector like TechPowerUp.

    Officially they were "cutting it's power down some more"

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    Pure incompetence.
    Are we there yet?

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    never really looked at amd as one to cut corners
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    How much did they pay ppl to cut that part by hand

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    I woudl think a viable option woudl be to replace the cooler design with a new one, then redesign future cards with different power plug placement and then re-use all the old coolers. I think filing down/polishing all the coolers is more work and time consuming.

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    the next batch will probably be fixed but the release batch is probably "custom" made

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    idiotic if true ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sin0822 View Post
    Why can't they just move the plug?
    pretty sure it's soldered on there pretty good.

    Yeah this is a definite oops on their part. No doubt future revisions of the card will have tweaked coolers to accommodate this, not to mention custom AIB cards won't even have this issue.
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    I can't believe that you all are so willing to believe that AMD first made thousands of cards and then and only then tested the cooler on the boards.
    Come on guys. Perhaps the first batch was affected, or perhaps (and more probably) it is the cooler what is wrong.

    Trying to make us believe that AMD has absolutely no QA control throughout the whole production process until the very last step... well it's a story that tells a lot about these sites's lack of professionalism and impartiality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~CS~ View Post
    I can imagine the panic when guys at AMD found out.
    Oh yeah, the pain!

    Everyone who has ever had some kind of responsibility regarding small or large size production feels that so well! :shudder:
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    Quote Originally Posted by slaveondope View Post
    Officially they were "cutting it's power down some more"
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Maņo View Post
    I can't believe that you all are so willing to believe that AMD first made thousands of cards and then and only then tested the cooler on the boards.
    Come on guys. Perhaps the first batch was affected, or perhaps (and more probably) it is the cooler what is wrong.

    Trying to make us believe that AMD has absolutely no QA control throughout the whole production process until the very last step... well it's a story that tells a lot about these sites's lack of professionalism and impartiality.
    Actually I work in Quality control (14 years and counting) and true or not this sort of thing happens all of the time especially on new products and regardless of the corporation involved. This includes some multi-nationals who you think would know better.

    Still find it amusing though.
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    doesn't AMD outsource production so their quality control wouldn't be that great? I am asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydiamond View Post
    never really looked at amd as one to cut corners
    You, sir, win the pun of the week award.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sin0822 View Post
    Why can't they just move the plug?
    By the time they caught it, at least one batch of cards was ordered and manufactured to the flawed specifications. Further, delays would have been another month or two if they did decide to trash otherwise good cards. Instead, likely before mounting all heatsinks, they found out there's a flaw and have now fully corrected said flaw.

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    jesus this cant be true, but then again explains the delay!! over 50,000 cards handled oh mang

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Maybe it is the same reason why HD 6990 was pushed till Q1 2011
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    OH MY GOD Its a conspiracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpuTnicK View Post
    Maybe it is the same reason why HD 6990 was pushed till Q1 2011
    lol if it is, AMD i feel your pain!

    Another thing I find funny is AMD/Intel would snipe any of our Moms on a grocery run if it meant good quarterly results, and you are forever whining about what feser did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sin0822 View Post
    I woudl think a viable option woudl be to replace the cooler design with a new one, then redesign future cards with different power plug placement and then re-use all the old coolers. I think filing down/polishing all the coolers is more work and time consuming.
    scratching the power connector takes more time than building thousands of new coolers. right.

    how do you exist?

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    We really need more competition in this business. We shouldn't have to choose between these two dumb ass companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamtan2 View Post
    scratching the power connector takes more time than building thousands of new coolers. right.

    how do you exist?
    I exist just fine. I didn't say anything about scratching a power connector I was talking about changing the design so they could use the same cooler, is it really that hard to move the power connector 2cm on a future batch?

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