donny. its like this. ever since amd 754/939 (a64) was released. it was always dominated by nvidia chipset. nf3, nf4 ultra. hence dfi lanparty ultra d and made Oscar wu famous.
Oscar wu (was a bios engineer for diamond flower international/DFI) if you guys dont know was the driving force behind enthusiast overclocking and was the holy grail of ocing bios and ocing options on bios especially ram ocing options at the time. he is what everyone copied and is one of the main reasons we have the assortment of options on bios these days. all the ocing options you see in your bios since then are all copies of Oscar wu's but he was the first. Ati before it was acquired or right around the time amd bought it was looking for a chipset to compete with nvidia. the canadian bios engineers wanted to make a chipset for 939 that had onboard gfx but could compete with nvidia. it was called RX480.
ATi sent some boards out to andantech and some other review sites and was only reference boards. at the time I was heavily into amd athlon 64 ocing and was doing an amd 939 shootout and a member on this site from ati was nice enough to flow me one of the reference boards except this board was very special because not only it was an engineering sample but it was modded to the teeth with vdimm mods to allow insane ram vdimm. note this was also the same time when CH5 the successor of Bh5 started making its way into the scene, Twinmos, ocz VX, etc. thats why we had hipro's and ocz's ddr booster.
the ace in the hole for athlon 64 was the onboard mem controller and you saw a lot of products designed to exploit high performance memory on athlon 64. so when the bullhead came out it was the 1st board to really compete with nvidia. VIA was horsecrap and not even a contest but RX480 was the light at the end of the tunnel and never took off. I think MSI and sapphire made some and they didnt have the options the original ATI samples had and then the nf4 ultra came out and the bullhead was history. AMD took over and the engineers got lazy and were at the top and thought they had the enthusiast market and then intel came out with core2 and that was the end of the amd saga.
to sum it up this board was ati's answer to DFI nf4 ultra with bios options that the legendary oscar wu didnt even think of. Its extremely rare and I probaly have one of the few left in existence and I never had extreme cooling at the time and always wanted to see what it could really do. Its been hanging on my wall as a trophy and just tonight I decided to see if it would still work and it posts but I can clock it until I can get a working bios that will make it compatible with dual core 939. I cant remember if dual core 939 was even around when the engineers were still playing with this board. if thats the case then I need to get a single core 939. there were so few of these boards and Im not even sure anyone ever played with dice/ln2 on it. its totally uncharted territory so its my mission to get this thing back in action on heavy duty cooling and see if I can make history with a piece of history.
Youve all heard of the 7 wonders of the world. well there are 4 canadian wonders of the world...
1. blackberrry RIM
2. colin mckay
3. The trailer park boys
4. ATI bullhead.
Congrats to T! we missed you in the nov contest. good to see you back buddy!![]()
Last edited by trans am; 12-08-2010 at 03:59 PM.
nice result T! you da man! where is that damn SR-2???
"Lurking" Since 1977
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Jesus Saves, God Backs-Up *I come to the news section to ban people, not read complaints.*-[XC]GomelerDon't believe Squish, his hardware does control him!
Yes, much congrats Mr. Tilt!
hey guys is anyone with me on this dec contest? I need to know who the players are. I'm going in full force. PM me if you are down. I need to know who's got what. We can take this.
So I have a setup for the Dec HWBOT comp stage 5 socket 939.
Ive had this thing sitting around in a box for a long time.
Motherboard is a Biostar 6100 M9 and CPU is AMD 4200+ Dual Core.
I know it's not much but the best I can do atm.
So this board might not be the best OCer but it does have a few settings in teh BIOS.
I can raise the vcore up 3 settings in the BIOS... +0.05, +0.1, +0.15
With this set to +0.15 I can raise the buss speed up to 226 tops, so its like 2.48ghz
Not fantastic I know
Now I had a OC program for it called Warpspeeder that had more options. Only problem is the only 1 I can find on the net is version 0.9 7.2
This version just does not seem to work. I have tired on nlite XP, WinXP and Vista with no luck.
Any chance some one has a older version of this utility ?
Rig is all setup on SS Phase but not sure if thats gonna help this one![]()
Using what I had for the HWBOT OC Challenge December 2010, Stage 5 Socket 939.
Motherboard is a Biostar 6100 M9 and CPU is AMD 4200+ Dual Core.
I was stuck for a long time at 226 Buss Speed at this motherboard had pretty limited OC ability.
Digging deep in the interwebs I finally found a BIOS that made so I could raise that to 250.
Tweaking this more and more I was able to get a CPUz of 2.9ghz / 266 Buss.
Saddly tho after many, many attemps I had to lower the Buss speed to 254 to get this puppy to run 32M.
Was a lot of fun tho and I really enjoyed the comp !
Wish I could have done better here.
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1089805_
oh man. thats tough. oh well. nice try at least. If I have to oc in each stage for our team alone then so be it. As a member of xs team I am not going to rest until I get at least 3 stages for us.
this contest has been my dream ever since I started overclocking on a p4p800 dlx and a 2.4c. I didnt have ln2 then and didnt have the balls then. I was a kid. Im a full grown adult now and massman built me a time machine to go back in time and kick ass.
not since cpu tweaker limitation was added.....imo timings are what makes people individuals, take that away and you just have a bunch of people copying one another.
Of course no one says twkr has to have the timings you used, I could always jack all timings way slack for screenshots.......
Last edited by chew*; 12-13-2010 at 12:33 PM.
heatware chew*
I've got no strings to hold me down.
To make me fret, or make me frown.
I had strings but now I'm free.
There are no strings on me
Not your fault but look at it this way, advanced memory tuning is what got me first in MOA pre qualifier.
I had a much crappier chip and crappier IGP.
I spent a good week + debugging memory related issues that board and intels IGP had before even putting any time in on ln2 ( both of which endusers will benefit from in future bios's )
Would not have been hard to copy timings if twkr was mandatory which imo is just others profiting off anothers hard work and time.
This is why vince i feel leaves his mem tab out of all 01 screenshots.
Last edited by chew*; 12-13-2010 at 12:57 PM.
heatware chew*
I've got no strings to hold me down.
To make me fret, or make me frown.
I had strings but now I'm free.
There are no strings on me
Yeah, I know what you mean, and I agree with you for usual overclocking, however in a Low Clock Challenge memory timings ( and software tweaks ) are your only way of improving your result. If more people don't want to show their subtimings one might consider making screenshots available to staff only. ( In this competition. )
After the competition is over they could be released to the public.
Buckeye and MTP04 are pushing their old-school setups for the December challenge, mkultra is pretesting a 8800 GTX before vmodding and SteveRo is finally addicted to 3D-benching I think...
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Much thanks to Mr. Linuxfan for all the help on ocing my 5870.
Got a few good scores and some nice global points.
Particularly 3DM01SE @ 104737 is not too bad.
I did most of this with the back door open into the room.
Outside temp was as low as -4C.
Inside I measured as low as +14C room temp.
Painfull at times - but looking back - perhaps worth it after all!![]()
Heatware
Custom SS unit by Gray Mole, Sdumper Cascade, K|ngp|n F1 Gemnni, TEK9 Fatboy, TEK9 Slim, NB-1, H2O stuff...
Celeron 347, Celeron 356, Celeron 420, 2x P4 631, P4 670, P4 640, P4 651, P4 524, PD 915, P4 540J, 2x P4 530J, P4 520J Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB DDR2-8500 2x Asus REX X48, Gigabyte EP45-UD3P rev 1.0, Asus Commando P965,
Stuff I used to have:
Asus RIIIE X58, Evga Classified P55, Gigabyte EP45T-UD3LR, i5 670, E8600, Q9650, Q9550, , 3x2GB Mushkin Redline 2000C8,, G.Skill 2x2GB PC9600(Silver), Evga Evbot
XFX 4770 modded, XFX 7950GT, XFX 6600GT, Evga 8600GTS 512MB, 3850 OC, 4x 3870s, and X600
"In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant." - James Stewart
im proud of you steve. we all are.you just keep kicking ass. hey did paul have the baby yet? keep us posted/
This is unacceptable guys.![]()
Got a nice little SS unit from Gray Mole today in the mail and going to retest the Q9450 and possibly start on the E8400 tomorrow.![]()
Heatware
Custom SS unit by Gray Mole, Sdumper Cascade, K|ngp|n F1 Gemnni, TEK9 Fatboy, TEK9 Slim, NB-1, H2O stuff...
Celeron 347, Celeron 356, Celeron 420, 2x P4 631, P4 670, P4 640, P4 651, P4 524, PD 915, P4 540J, 2x P4 530J, P4 520J Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB DDR2-8500 2x Asus REX X48, Gigabyte EP45-UD3P rev 1.0, Asus Commando P965,
Stuff I used to have:
Asus RIIIE X58, Evga Classified P55, Gigabyte EP45T-UD3LR, i5 670, E8600, Q9650, Q9550, , 3x2GB Mushkin Redline 2000C8,, G.Skill 2x2GB PC9600(Silver), Evga Evbot
XFX 4770 modded, XFX 7950GT, XFX 6600GT, Evga 8600GTS 512MB, 3850 OC, 4x 3870s, and X600
"In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant." - James Stewart
Yes Paul's wife had the baby, much congrats to CT! -
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=263516
unigine have been awarded points guys.....time to re-bench your dx11 vgas
i need to do it too with the 580, my efficiency is horrible compared to the guys around me
linuxfan, expect something from me by the end of this weekend, currently testing....
edit:
congrats to the new father!
Heatware
Custom SS unit by Gray Mole, Sdumper Cascade, K|ngp|n F1 Gemnni, TEK9 Fatboy, TEK9 Slim, NB-1, H2O stuff...
Celeron 347, Celeron 356, Celeron 420, 2x P4 631, P4 670, P4 640, P4 651, P4 524, PD 915, P4 540J, 2x P4 530J, P4 520J Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB DDR2-8500 2x Asus REX X48, Gigabyte EP45-UD3P rev 1.0, Asus Commando P965,
Stuff I used to have:
Asus RIIIE X58, Evga Classified P55, Gigabyte EP45T-UD3LR, i5 670, E8600, Q9650, Q9550, , 3x2GB Mushkin Redline 2000C8,, G.Skill 2x2GB PC9600(Silver), Evga Evbot
XFX 4770 modded, XFX 7950GT, XFX 6600GT, Evga 8600GTS 512MB, 3850 OC, 4x 3870s, and X600
"In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant." - James Stewart
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