AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

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I have a life thank you very much. And so far neither you or other trolls disputed fact that you don't compare A. 2xGPU to B. 1xGPU different product segments and claim A is fastest of AB segment. All you and other trolls did was go from my main point and introduce irrelevant stuff like

most agree that Crossfire is at least as good as SLI and off course having such on one card is big advantage.

I never compared SLI to Crossfire its the same thing and it is not the issue here.

Most reviewers agree it is the fastest graphic card

Hey i never said it is not fastest graphic card hell ya its fastest card but from different segment . "Most users" agree single GPU card is alot less of a hassle. And lets not start pulling random % out of our asses.

people buy Graphic Cards

You need to read some reviews your self , they explain how one Graphic Card differs from another. Clearly not everyone is blind and know about MGPU issues and SGPU advantages.

If you bother to read most review, most agree that Crossfire is at least as good as SLI and off course having such on one card is big advantage.

So you can make a distinction between two separate cards but not one with two or one GPU Single GPU card has as much advantage as single graphics card with MGPU over two separate ones.

It's not any secret that AMD strategy since HD 3870 is to have smaller die size and dual GPU as flagship and it looks like since the HD 4*** series it's not too bad strategy for them.

So now we went from "Graphic Card" discussions to company strategies speaking of witch "AMD promotes Cayman as the new R300 " here is your reason for AMD bashing. Why would you be positive and praise them for being so conservative.

[tifosi]

I have a life thank you very much. And so far neither you or other trolls disputed fact that you don't compare A. 2xGPU to B. 1xGPU different product segments and claim A is fastest of AB segment. All you and other trolls did was go from my main point and introduce irrelevant stuff like

Wow... i've seen some stuck up people... but you take the cake

If the 6970 performs better than GTX 480 (~110%) and is about 30-40% more expensive than $239 that the 6870 was launched at, i'm buying! A lot of people i know would too, and i'd wager a handsome sum to say that a lot of people globally would do the same. Just take a look at DX11 marketshare. It is mostly nvidia's flock (read sheep) which will have a problem admitting that this makes more sense, as it is cheaper, cooler and better value given the features like eyefinity and 7.1 96khz/24-bit audio over hdmi. Honestly, as a potential purchaser of 2 cards (for 2 systems) in THIS month... i'm rather keenly looking forward to the pricing of the 6970/6950/6870(may be a downward price review)... my is big enough! thank you :P no need for extra inches

Sincerely, i believe if AMD prices it closer to GTX 570, then Nvidia is fukked... cause Nvidia couldn't potentially drop prices a lot, with the given costs. I agree costs would have improved, but... it is still a BIG chip...

Also, it is what you can buy for your money which matters more me thinks... good on them those who bought 5970... it still is the fastest card out there... when launched for a little more than GTX480, it made good sense for those with the money to spend... It is still faster than the GTX580, so i don't see any downsides to having fastest card for about a year and then some :P similarly, the antilles will also be an exceptional value, given the CF scaling now.

[waway625]

Wow... i've seen some stuck up people... but you take the cake

If the 6970 performs better than GTX 480 (~110%) and is about 30-40% more expensive than $239 that the 6870 was launched at, i'm buying! A lot of people i know would too, and i'd wager a handsome sum to say that a lot of people globally would do the same. Just take a look at DX11 marketshare. It is mostly nvidia's flock (read sheep) which will have a problem admitting that this makes more sense, as it is cheaper, cooler and better value given the features like eyefinity and 7.1 96khz/24-bit audio over hdmi. Honestly, as a potential purchaser of 2 cards (for 2 systems) in THIS month... i'm rather keenly looking forward to the pricing of the 6970/6950/6870(may be a downward price review)... my is big enough! thank you :P no need for extra inches

Sincerely, i believe if AMD prices it closer to GTX 570, then Nvidia is fukked... cause Nvidia couldn't potentially drop prices a lot, with the given costs. I agree costs would have improved, but... it is still a BIG chip...

Also, it is what you can buy for your money which matters more me thinks... good on them those who bought 5970... it still is the fastest card out there... when launched for a little more than GTX480, it made good sense for those with the money to spend... It is still faster than the GTX580, so i don't see any downsides to having fastest card for about a year and then some :P similarly, the antilles will also be an exceptional value, given the CF scaling now.

No offense but that statement just sounded very fanboyish

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No offense but that statement just sounded very fanboyish

Well... we try and avoid the 'f' word :P Sincerely... i've been hearing all this malarkey about dual gpu vs single gpu... but if i get more for my money, why-ever would i complain? I'm an indian and we are notoriously stingy with our money... see 'red white and brown' by Russell Peters for more :P

You want to know... i'm currently using a 7900GS... kind dear admins, please don't ban me here at Xsystems Used 4870 for sometime... i'll simply buy whatever offers me more bang(read value) per buck. However, OT but, i don't support what Intel (No AMD/ less AMD, or compiler ) does, nor what Nvidia (TWIMTBP) does..

EDIT: For your benefit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdE2TEj38d0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6NoY...eature=related

[Heinz68]

I have a life thank you very much. And so far neither you or other trolls disputed fact that you don't compare A. 2xGPU to B. 1xGPU different product segments and claim A is fastest of AB segment. All you and other trolls did was go from my main point and introduce irrelevant stuff like

I never compared SLI to Crossfire its the same thing and it is not the issue here.
Hey i never said it is not fastest graphic card hell ya its fastest card but from different segment . "Most users" agree single GPU card is alot less of a hassle. And lets not start pulling random % out of our asses.
You need to read some reviews your self , they explain how one Graphic Card differs from another. Clearly not everyone is blind and know about MGPU issues and SGPU advantages.
So you can make a distinction between two separate cards but not one with two or one GPU Single GPU card has as much advantage as single graphics card with MGPU over two separate ones.

So now we went from "Graphic Card" discussions to company strategies speaking of witch "AMD promotes Cayman as the new R300 " here is your reason for AMD bashing. Why would you be positive and praise them for being so conservative.

Of course you can compare the cards, most review do without any special segment, maybe Google can help. The single most important reason to use 2 GPU is to have fastest Graphic Card.

Yes there is a HUGE advantage to have 2 GPU on one card instead having to buy two cards. Here are just few, less power consumption, less heat, some mobos can't run 2 cards, even on my not exactly cheap mobo I would have to run them site by site, again more heat. The most important is the cost since the dual GPU cards cost less than 2 cards.

The bottom line is, selective post replying always goes on with never ending arguments. Maybe you should go read one more time here.
Here is your reply to my post, there sure was not need for it
My post was about "why all the negatives, gloom and doom" about AMD in this thread.
I only made that post after so many repeating post about AMD sinking ship and about the big trouble AMD is in because of Cayman.
Instead of replying to all the negative post and sometime out right troolls I responded with a single post trying to point out few positives not exclusively talking about HD 5970. Is that so bad in AMD thread? Do you really thing it is trolling? Do you know what trolling is?

You decided to ignore all and make selective reply going on with even more negatives. I can safely bet that most people using the HD 5970 wont agree with you, but you who doesn't have any knows better.

The ONLY way to have the most powerful graphic and gaming solution is either with dual card or multi card SLI or Crossfire, for me single card is better way.
I don't want to go on about this any more lets just say we disagree but next time please read and don't make selective personal attack post, there sure was not need for it. My last post on the subject. You want to talk more take it PM.