Quote Originally Posted by xBanzai89 View Post
I don't really care how each performs relative to the size of the dye. I only care about actual performance of the card. I do hope AMD pulls an upset here. I am || this close from ordering a GTX 570 off EVGA's site.
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Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
no high end gamer cares about perf/watt. Every high end gamer will have a decent psu and case and all gamers care about is perf/dollar, or even more importantly is perf/pci lane. They will always stick whatever is faster in their pci lane and they couldnt care less if it runs hot or not. Its the fps on the screen they care about and Amd needs to start pushing more out of their chips especially if they have the headroom for it. The best they can do within 300w is what they need to do and not this perf/watt bull. That is only relevant for mainstream players and htpc users.
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Nice to see that at-least 2 people have common sense

lets get real here. why do you buy a graphics card? to play games (or run benches if thats your type of thing) you don't buy a graphics card because it is eco friendly or because it has a smaller die size... for example lets say we have a card that uses 50watts under load and has a die size of 1MM X 1MM (impossible i know) but only has the performance of a 5750 but is being sold as a high end card at a high end card price point... how many people are going to by it? nobody! cuz if it can't game for the price your paying whats the point...

to be honest I had really hoped for more out of Cayman then what we are seeing now, and the whole argument that Cayman only performs bad in Synthetics is weak. as bad as 3DMARK is it still gives a general idea on how games perform and there are a few games that fit right in line with the numbers it puts out. the biggest thing that concerns me are the heaven numbers, yes it is way better then the 5870 and almost as good as the 5970 but for a 6970 to be slower then a GTX 570 after all the effort they put into Tessellation improvements is a little depressing. lots of people are quick to discount heaven as another synthetic but just remember that in 2011 there is a good number of games that will be using it's engine (about 5 games I think but i could be wrong) so the performance of heaven is extremely relevant IMO.

However I am going to give AMD the benefit of the doubt and wait for the hardware Canucks review before I make up my mind. i just think that so many people hyped it to be the next R300 which it obviously won't be... now all we can hope for it that it won't be the next R600