AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[generics_user]

This



now on semiaccurate

that's why he has a big thumbs up from me

[Lanek]

I really dislike these marketing slides even if its fake, lol, seriously people have to be dumb to fall for deceptive scales like that.

Anyway Fuad said,

"AMD's own benchmarketing data claims that Cayman XT is slightly below 20 percent faster than a GTX 480 in 3Dmark Vantage. When we compare our own GTX 480 results and add 20 percent on top of that it turns that Cayman XT loses to both GTX 570 and especially GTX 580."

I'm assuming from the reviews I have read about the 570 is that it performs equally to the 480, so Fuad doesn't know what he is talking about again..

The next 7 days are going to be very long indeed

This guy is crazy ( Fuad ), when this slide is 99% proven fake ( beyond3D forum )

He should take care, i think he will completely lost all credibility with this type of article, i know most peoples read and forget, but since 1 year, this begin to make a lot of readers and a lot of article.

[SKYMTL]

This guy is crazy ( Fuad ), when this slide is 99% proven fake ( beyond3D forum )

He should take care, i think he will completely lost all credibility with this type of article, i know most peoples read and forget, but since 1 year, this begin to make a lot of readers and a lot of article.

Actually, this article you refer to will only be proven true or false when trusted benchmark numbers come to light.

[Lanek]

Yes i was coming back to put a bit of smooth on my words ... i should not make the same error as him ...

[Oliverda]

This thread is getting more and more ridiculous...

[generics_user]

i bet that it's going to break the 100page limit next week and that there's going to be no new real information until launch

seriously the last new information was posted 6 pages ago? i want some final specs and new slides to speculate some more or some real test results

[ilkkahy]

I realised that this thread is almost as epic as this Fermi-thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=fermi

Last two intresting and hyped graphic card releases made about 2000 replies and 200 000 views. I wonder is there some pattern to it ?

My optimistic guess is that 6970 will be about as fast as 570. If its faster, thats even better.

edit. i noticed Fermi-thread continued to other threads so Cayman hype isnt even half of what Fermi was..

[Florinmocanu]

Yeah, but we are still 1 week away from launch and the thread is bigger already. So probably the Cayman thread is going to be a lot bigger than the fermi one.

[Lanek]

I realised that this thread is almost as epic as this Fermi-thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=fermi

Last two intresting and hyped graphic card releases made about 2000 replies and 200 000 views. I wonder is there some pattern to it ?

My optimistic guess is that 6970 will be about as fast as 570. If its faster, thats even better.

edit. i noticed Fermi-thread continued to other threads so Cayman hype isnt even half of what Fermi was..

your optimist guess ? the 570 have the same perf of the the GTX480(+-2%) .. so you think AMD will manage to release an HD6970 14months after released the HD5870 and who can only match the GTX480 ?

I don't want to know what is happend when you are pessimist .... ( it's a joke don't take it bad )

Anyway, posted from Hilbert Guru3D, he just have got his samples for the review.


it's confirm most site should get the card this next days

[MrMojoZ]

edit. i noticed Fermi-thread continued to other threads so Cayman hype isnt even half of what Fermi was..

Fermi threads had more time to bake.

[TheBreezyBB]

I'm pretty sure that the Cayman XT is 40-45% faster then the GTX480. But, the truth will be revealed on the 15th of this month,we'll wait and see how that goes.

[Vipeax]

My optimistic guess is that 6970 will be about as fast as 570. If its faster, thats even better.

Then be happy that it will fall under "better". CJ already pointed out in early april that the next product from ATi will be aimed at a GTX480 + 512 shaders + higher clocks (and what a GTX460 would look like performance wise). He even knew about the GTX580's approach at the time... It WILL beat a GTX570 no doubt...

[Nintendork]

I realised that this thread is almost as epic as this Fermi-thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=fermi

Last two intresting and hyped graphic card releases made about 2000 replies and 200 000 views. I wonder is there some pattern to it ?

My optimistic guess is that 6970 will be about as fast as 570. If its faster, thats even better.

edit. i noticed Fermi-thread continued to other threads so Cayman hype isnt even half of what Fermi was..

That's simple, near 6 months of full vaporware with fermi. Wait, it's near -place your day- just wait a bit.

This thread is what, 2 months? not even that.

AMD should reveal a wood mockup of hecatoncheires/HD7000 (or whatever) xD

[Aten-Ra]

your optimist guess ? the 570 have the same perf of the the GTX480(+-2%) .. so you think AMD will manage to release an HD6970 14months after released the HD5870 and who can only match the GTX480 ?

Don’t forget the 2x DX-11 Tessellation performance vs Cypress 5870.

[Manicdan]

I'm pretty sure that the Cayman XT is 40-45% faster then the GTX480. But, the truth will be revealed on the 15th of this month,we'll wait and see how that goes.

that would be kinda nuts i think
as much as i would love to see that, and still in the 450$ price range, im not thinking that high

my un-educated guess is 5-10% above a 580 average, some it looses by a little and some i jumps way ahead. still not sure about what will happen in heavier tessellation though, or how much it will really matter in games.

[Lanek]

Don’t forget the 2x DX-11 Tessellation performance vs Cypress 5870.

If it was only that ( not sure tesselation perf will show in most games DX11, the higher intensive ones are Nvidia games as LP2 and HawX2 ) ... but yes ofc all the change made count, i don't think the 6970 will just match the 480..

[TheBreezyBB]

that would be kinda nuts i think
as much as i would love to see that, and still in the 450$ price range, im not thinking that high

my un-educated guess is 5-10% above a 580 average, some it looses by a little and some i jumps way ahead. still not sure about what will happen in heavier tessellation though, or how much it will really matter in games.

It's all in due time. Right now all the major website got their hands on the cards but since there is the NDA crap from AMD nothing will be confirmed till the release day.

[Aten-Ra]

i would put it between GTX480 and GTX580

same for 6950, between HD5870 and GTX570

In Tessellation 6970 will be very close to GTX580

[Vipeax]

PCB hole -> Fermi? Or just a sticker or something under the fan...
I thought it had a backplate so it's probably something else.

[Motiv]

still not sure about what will happen in heavier tessellation though, or how much it will really matter in games.

If AMD have surpassed Nvidia (unlikely), then all the partisan AMD supporters will be linking to Ungine benchmarks

If it's a bit lower, then all the partisan Nvidia supporters will be pointing towards it themselves.

[Manicdan]

If AMD have surpassed Nvidia (unlikely), then all the partisan AMD supporters will be linking to Ungine benchmarks

If it's a bit lower, then all the partisan Nvidia supporters will be pointing towards it themselves.

well if tessellation is better on AMD side, then hopefully gaming is too.

to be better in a very specific synthetic benchmark but worse in all games, i would call that a failure, even as an AMD/ATI owner and fan

[Picao84]

delete please....

[Borden]

PCB hole -> Fermi? Or just a sticker or something under the fan...
I thought it had a backplate so it's probably something else.

VRM's choke?

[zalbard]

A few points to consider.
First of all, it's a brand new arch from AMD for the first time in a long time (4870 + PCB tricks => 4890, double texturing and shaders, stick DX11 on it => 5870). It will come in the middle of the month, means 10.12 final drivers will not yet be ready. And AMD is really slow with drivers in general. So expect the performance to increase over time as they polish the drivers and sort the optimisations out.
Secondly, if it has a big chip, then, unlike GF100 which had Tesla as the first priority and Gaming as the second, pretty much all of them transistors will be working to get our games running as fast as possible. So I expect the performance to be quite good.

[SpuTnicK]

PCB hole -> Fermi? Or just a sticker or something under the fan...
I thought it had a backplate so it's probably something else.

You can't possibly see the back of the cards cause they both face fan upwards
And if you look closer to PCI-Express connector, you can see the AMD logo whit an arrow pointing Norht-East
So, my point its is HD6800 or HD6900 cards