Welcome back! But, what's the meaning of "all"?Originally Posted by bingo13
New BIOS for the M3A78-T, too?
My new 1090T is still waiting for Turbo CORE support...
The board is very stable with latest 1907, but only without o.c.. At default values, AIDA64 shows HTT clock fluctuations... And if I load up to three cores, they go to 3500 MHz and more, and the idling ones switch from 800 to 3200...
Last edited by fastleo63; 12-06-2010 at 08:02 AM.
MB: ASUSTeK Sabertooth 990FX BIOS 0705 | CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T | RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2 x 4GB DDR3-1600MHz CL7-8-7-21-1T | Blu-Ray writer: ASUSTeK BW-12B1LT | HDD: SSD OCZ Vertex Turbo 60GB + HW RAID-5 3TB (HighPoint RocketRAID 4310 PCIe x8 SAS adapter - Intel IOP348 based) | VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 1GB GDDR5 | O.S.: MS-Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
Asus M489GTD PRO USB3 I too am unable to have 2 nvidia cards running on this board, tried in various combination, I am on bios 1606. Just blank screens after power on
8800gts/2x7900gt/7300gt
May we expect an xmas present for Crosshair IV Formula...?
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I have no issues with 460 cards in the M489GTD PRO/USB3 using the 1606 BIOS. Both cards also work with the x4 slot occupied with an IBIS drive.
I have the ch4 formula, seasonic x-750.
Psu is good except for the fluctuating 5vsb (sometimes when powering up the psu I can see my board's lights flicker like mad).
When I had my 8600gt, it wasn't to hard to get most things stable, had issues with mafia 2 and bfbc2.
With my 240gt it was much harder.
So I got anew psu.
Eventually I got those games stable, along with y cruncher 8 hrs stable,s&m stable, linx stable, super pi stable, furmark stable and intel burn test stable.
It wasn't easy.
It was actually recently when I've gotten all those stable, most were before though but not all.
Now I got a 460se, and my system is so freaking unstable.
The card runs great and is stable.
Voltages are good, temps are in the low 30's and 20's.
No matter what I do, I get random lockups in the bios, directx crashes on me(dwm), mafia 2 crashes in an hour most of the time.
Bfbc2 crashes in mins.
My browser crashes on me offen.
Heck, now since today I have a very hard time dl'ing or even using facebook.
I can dl 40megs before opera gets a connections error and it's not my modem or cables.
I am so fraking sick of my board.
I spent over $600 in the last few months on it.
3 vga cards, 2 psu's.
I've tried 1 stick of mem at a time.
I've tried super cooling my system to around 10c.
I've tried some extreme voltages.
Mem has a hard time running below 2000mhz, it won't boot lower speeds without increasing the timings.
Had that prob since I got the new vga card.
If I increase the timings to much it bsod's.
I really want this new bios as soon as possible please.
I need a working 100% stable pc, I usually have no probs getting a new system and doing that within 2 weeks, but this board has been something diff.
I've redid the heatsinks on the board 3 times too.
I've spent every single day working on this setup, for at least 6 months.
It's VERY stressful.
Major headaches everyday thinaks to this system, not just a metafor, real headaches from the stress.
The onlyy thing I can notcie out of place is that the south bridge's heatsink I can press down a few mm's, it's lose, but the nb and pwn is tight.
I know for afact the pwm heatsink doesn't touch the pwm though because there's a huge gap as think as the heatsink plate it's self, so I kept the tim tape on it.
The heatsink temp on the pwm it's self is quite low though.
So it's probably working ok'ish.
I suspect it's the south bridge being that everything is vga related.
But I have no idea how to fix it.
That and rma'ing the board, I would have to pay for that, have no pc at all for a month at least, and they would probably say everything is hunky dory and give me back the board without doing a thing.
Other things I've noticed since I've gotten the new card.
Increasing the 2ndary timings gets me 2hrs of mafia 2 stable, sometimes.
3rd level of bfbc2, start and fail by killing that lookout guy...
If I adjust nothing, I can sometimes start the level and sometimes not.
If I lower ram speed, I can run the level 4-7 times before it crashes to desktop.
I've tried every single setting in the bios and I can't stop that from crashing.
And then there's sometimes where I can lower the ram speed and it crashes when 1st starting the level anyways :\.
Sucks because 1st teh 8600gt was easy to get stable compared to the 240 gt.
then I got the 240 gt stable on most things np's and then the gtx 460 se is being a pain the butt.
And I know for a fact all 3 card's are perfectly fine.
Edit:
Directx doesn't crash most of the time if I disable the cpu's voltage thingy, whatever you call it.
The thing that stablises it supposedly.
The options on the bottem of the 1st bios screen.
In order to get mafia2 to start a game I have to set my cpu speed to 3ghz, and increase my cpu voltage +1v.
Then it's only 1hr stable.
If I re-enable that cpu voltage stablise setting thingy, directx crashes regardless of voltages.
Been up to 1.7v cpu and it still crashes.
Sorry for typos and forgotten terms, got such a headache.
Want to goto bed but I have to keep an eye on my browsers last dl so it don't mess up.
This morning I woke up to my pc hardlocked hours before from my torrent client, I've never had that issue.
Not only are my games unreliable, but my entier system is now.
Last edited by NEOAethyr; 12-16-2010 at 03:41 PM.
As already, with various combo of the cards mentioned, it all results in blank screen.
Could you give some info on what bios setting you have for graphics or any other info that might be deemed for a try
cheers
Do you have a monitor plugged into each card ?
Yes, I have some testing later on today to try, but in your other post you are suggesting a cmos clear after trying different cards?
Dudes if you can't get it to boot after adding a card or changing a card the 1st thing I would of tried is clearing the cmos...
Also...
I'm not 100% sure but I think it's not a good idea to use a cmos from a diff card config...
In my case it seems like it was a bad idea to use a cmos profile from another card config.
Yep.. and bios updates too. Anytime you add/remove any component, it messes with the bios DMI pool. Fans included lol..
Edit
Then fresh install windows hehe
BIOS screenshots with onboard graphics settings. The third screenshot is with both 460 cards and the last is with SLI enabled and a monitor connected to the card furthest from the CPU.
So there are still no news for the M4A79 or any other 790FX Board?
Any chance for a (beta) Bios for it in this year or at least next year?
I didn't know that "very soon" could become such a long time (a half year already)
Lol I spent all last night and today (7am now lol), getting my board stable.
And I finally got somewhere.
1st to get it halfway mafia 2 stable I had to reset to defaults using the bios setting to do that.
With everything on auto btw, bad company 2 was unstable (more on this in a sec).
I got a point where I was trying to set some of the smaller things up and test for mafia 2 stability and I'de play for an hour before it would crash, spent 6 hours getting no where.
So I decided to goto bed, with my known mafia 2 stable settings I tried to run y cruncher while I was sleeping but that was crashing within secs.
Didn't matter what voltages I set.
Next morning I figuered it out, the cpu-nb speed was causing it, 3ghz was the prob (wth...).
So I spent an hour fiddling with it trying to figuer out why in the heck it wasn't stable (used to be stable with my gt 240).
Eventually I said screw it and rebuilt my system again.
The south bridge, thinking this was a potential prob, after I got my board out of my case I took a flash light and looked real close at the south bridge.
Had a huge gap between it's core and the heatsink.
Been running it for months like this..
So I replaced the screws with shorter ones and used plastic washers instead of springs.
Worked like a charm.
Y cruncher seemed stable, ran it for an hour at 3ghz cpu-nb speed.
I set it back to 2.75ghz and then went to mess with bad company 2.
Still unstable, son of a..., tried everything again, nothing would fix it.
So I'm thinking, driver prob?, I didn't have the internet at that moment so I had to figuer something.
I needed gpu logs, to make absolutely sure it had nothing to do with my vga card.
So I modded the quadro driver (259.12-Quadro-win7-winvista-32bit-international-whql).
Same driver I was using before but I had to fiddle with it to get it to install normally, close out the error dialogs before they screwed me over.
Now I don't have to do that plus it's got all pref's preset now.
The idea was, well some bg on it 1st.
Very 1st set of win7 drivers or so installed np, quadro drivers on a geforce card (I prefer these drivers with any card, even though I don't have a quadro).
Now they don't install these days, like they are protected or something.
Complains about missing files, or failed cpl install and cancels the installer and uninstalls any previous vga card on you and leaves you with nothing.
Like a protection.
I was thinking, my modded drivers usually get past most of these flimsy kind of quadro protections (most anyways).
So I made the modded inf, installed the driver, all is good.
Play mafia 2 with a few more settings in place, like cnq and c1e.
All good, 2hrs stable and no issues what so ever.
Hmm check bad company 2, level 4 (said 3 before but I meant level 4, called upriver).
Wow it worked, did more then 10 passes.
What I do is run for sec and kill the lookout guy and fail the mission, flares come out and mission failed, then try again.
I do this 10 times.
Seems like a pretty quick test.
It had to be something to do with the vga driver when it came to bad company 2 (possibly some kind of quadro protection placed on not just fake quadro's but geforce cards too, that's bs..., I would hope not but I don't really know).
Y cruncher had something to do with the south bridge temps with my new vga card.
And mafia 2, a clean cmos fixed that up as far as I can tell.
Board won't boot if you put in a diff vga card, I always have to clear the cmos, and I usually just load up a cmos profile and go from there.
Apperently that might of been a mistake, and I should of been starting from scratch whenever I swaped vga cards.
I shouldn't of been loading cmos profiles that I made with a diff vga card apperently.
So far it's been acting alot better and a bit snappier too.
I still have to check 3ghz cpu-nb speed and tighten my mem timings.
That and the drive strengths, I've got 2 I usually set for more mem stability.
I want to run 8hrs of y cruncher later on when I goto bed, and work from there.
Thank the oc'ing gods my system is acting ok'ish.
Why it was so much of a pain in th ebutt to get this far I don't know but I'm glad I'm close to getting it back up to par.
I hope the new bios fixes the turbo mode fluctuations and lets us set more power state voltages.
But anything would be nice.
Like a diff raid rom.
Last edited by NEOAethyr; 12-18-2010 at 04:55 AM.
Really huge thanks for the time and effort you put into that post, as long as I have been using forums it is refreshing to see somebody put in some time for an other enthusiast.
I have a 260gtx now to try with a combo of the already mentioned cards
cheers
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