6800 Ultra,,Fastest card on the Orb!!

[hrhrhrfoot]

Originally posted by StormPC
I don't think this is a suprise at all. From the reviews I've seen it was pretty obvious that the 6800 Ultra is faster than the XT in lower resolutions. In 1280x1024 and above with all the bells and whistles turned on the ATi cards (even the Pro) smoke the nVidias.

Moral of the story? If you use a 15" monitor and only run 3DMark then go nVidia. If not, ATi is your best bet.

Couldn't have said it better myself. If i buy a $400+ card, i damn well better be playing with everything maxed out. Sure, we all like 3dmark, but i love eye candy more. That is why i am going to buy ATI.

[TommyW]

why its not first on the orb??
the first is x800xt!!

[LardArse]

Hi guys, Its 99% confirmed its a fake. In his website here,
http://www.coolaler.com/article/article.php/158
Coolaler has shown a CPUID pic of his prescott at 4.7G while submitting the score. (3rd pic from bottom) The ID number is 3454630296 and Franck of CPUID has verified that its a 3.6G P4. The rest of the screenies, he cleverly used the menus to hide the ID numbers, but I guess he left that one out.
As seen in his pics, he has his container sitting on his video card without a hold down and to use LN2 on both his GPU and CPU, his CPU container would have to be a big elbow wouldn't it?
That would explain his Nature, and also that he makes no mention of throttling at these temps when I'm facing GPU throttling back even at default speeds at very cold GPU temp.

[sierra_bound]

Good detective work, LA. That would be very bad if he faked everything. I take it he hasn't responded to any of this.

[LardArse]

He probably did try to use DI on his GPU though, at low temps like 0C displayed on the nvidia monitor, the "bar" does reach "red-hot" levels as shown in his pic.

[macci]

Doesn't seem like a fake thou.
GT1-3 is pretty much what it should be at those clocks. Its only the Nature thats clearly higher than on your score OR on his previous score of 15.377 (it was only 89.2FPS on that one..).
Maybe a LOD tweak?

Hmm.. actually the CPU speed thingy is a bit wierd! Notice how ORB is reading it as 4700MHz? ORB has a bug once the CPU speed reached over 4.1GHz. After that speed the CPU speed reported by ORB is 200MHz lower than it actually is (4.5G = 4.3GHz etc).
So if his CPU-Z says 4.7G the ORB should say 4.5GHz - not 4.7 like on his pic...

Hard to tell if its real or not. Lets see if he can publish it - I posted to his forum yesterday and let him know the ORB allows users to publish the 6800 results.

[charlie]

A couple things...
Anyone who benches DI KNOWS that you can't stick like 1 or 2 giant chunks of DI in there... you need small pieces, and that's almost NO frost too...
AND! And where's the fluid? If he tipped the card on it's side like in the pic, fluid would run out, UNLESS it was just a couple chunks of DI jammed in there, which doesn't cool worth a sh*t.
I'm curious.

Lack of a hold down means nothing, though...it could have small screws tapped through the back

C

[blinky]

also, why does he have no insulation on the back of the GPU:???

why does he run his ram 3-4-4-5, those are odd timings

[Iridium192_217]

very nice

[LardArse]

I'd say that CPUID number of a 3.6 P4 on his "4.7g" Prescot is enough of a giveaway. So far I haven't come across a case where the ID number lied.
You'd think that the guy who had time to take a pic of his monitor after the bench would have time to take a pic of the dual LN2 setup.

[blinky]

yah why all the digicam pics and not screenies?

[sierra_bound]

LardArse is closing in on 100K

[althes]

this is getting fun.

[Soulburner]

With a score that totally destroyed the competition by over 10k+ points...

Would be nice if it showed his CPU/GFX score and his specs though.

[Mini]

N1 LardArse...

Throtling sounds like a ... No way to turn it off??? What do Nvidia say??? They makin a driver where its possible??? And whats the point of turning speed down when it gets too cold???

Hehe... Should they put the speed up to regain heat

[oc-rookie]

Originally posted by Soulburner
With a score that totally destroyed the competition by over 10k+ points...

Would be nice if it showed his CPU/GFX score and his specs though.

Above 4.3ghz will always show 0/0. He destroyed everybody... to shamino. He could have taken number one with his pro a week ago.

[JWB]

Originally posted by macci
Doesn't seem like a fake thou.
GT1-3 is pretty much what it should be at those clocks. Its only the Nature thats clearly higher than on your score OR on his previous score of 15.377 (it was only 89.2FPS on that one..).
Maybe a LOD tweak?

Hmm.. actually the CPU speed thingy is a bit wierd! Notice how ORB is reading it as 4700MHz? ORB has a bug once the CPU speed reached over 4.1GHz. After that speed the CPU speed reported by ORB is 200MHz lower than it actually is (4.5G = 4.3GHz etc).
So if his CPU-Z says 4.7G the ORB should say 4.5GHz - not 4.7 like on his pic...

Hard to tell if its real or not. Lets see if he can publish it - I posted to his forum yesterday and let him know the ORB allows users to publish the 6800 results.

I'm with Macci, it seems the guy gets a score of 15377 with his cpu at 4009Mhz (19th pic down) and then turn it up to around 45**mhz and card clocks up and got the 16838 score. The other shots of 47**mhz could be showinf his max clocks of his cpu and not his max benchable score.

The are things that need to be found out though. Such as the large chunks of DI used, the cpu code thingy (Not sure aboput this though as alot of cpu programs do some weird things for me once overclocked e.g. saying I have a different cpu to the one which I do, like a higher speed rating for example, 2800 for a 3000 at 2.4Ghz) also how did he get 3d mark to show 14850 but show 15377 also (pic 19)?

EDIT: I also think the DI container is in an upright position and the pics have been taken from weird angles. In the 14th pic he has taken a picture where it is upright, therefore not needing the kink in the container.

[LardArse]

Thx guys.
Anyone has had a performance boost with a flash to the latest bios for the IC7? I'm still on the stock bios that came with the board but it works great for me so I don't wanna spoil a good thing. Thats 1 way of narrowing that 1K gap.
And I dunno if disabling USB would raise scores a lil? Right now I have to enable it for my modem cos AQM can't save the score to be submitted later. Or can it?
As for pushing the CPU, it is already at 14 x 331 -> 4.63 Ghz. With Hyper threading on this is about the max I can pass Aquamark.
Tried the blurriest LOD doesn't seem to help score or O/C. Gotta try a few others. And I dunno if its the random throttling that is killing my memory O/C, wished I had tried a Vmem mod before seal stringing up the bugger. Its using 2ns I think so wouldn't get much more now.
I guess 100k might not be so possible without a driver update. I just might be able to borrow some AData rams for 1:1 action.
JWB, his score submission shows 4.7G in the CPU speed tab and and his title of 6800U + 4.7 prescott. See his fervent submission of Aquamark scores with 4G P4 on the ARC but not one that was ran on LN2?
Anyways it could be that my runs all had weird Nature or the irritating nvidia clock pulling antics, guess we'll have to wait till macci Opp and the rest get their 68s. Still waiting to see if he submits the score... Wouldn't that be better though?? Much closer to 18k if Nature does 11+?

[Mini]

Originally posted by LardArse
Thx guys.
Anyone has had a performance boost with a flash to the latest bios for the IC7? I'm still on the stock bios that came with the board but it works great for me so I don't wanna spoil a good thing. Thats 1 way of narrowing that 1K gap.
And I dunno if disabling USB would raise scores a lil? Right now I have to enable it for my modem cos AQM can't save the score to be submitted later. Or can it?
As for pushing the CPU, it is already at 14 x 331 -> 4.63 Ghz. With Hyper threading on this is about the max I can pass Aquamark.
Tried the blurriest LOD doesn't seem to help score or O/C. Gotta try a few others. And I dunno if its the random throttling that is killing my memory O/C, wished I had tried a Vmem mod before seal stringing up the bugger. Its using 2ns I think so wouldn't get much more now.
I guess 100k might not be so possible without a driver update. I just might be able to borrow some AData rams for 1:1 action.
JWB, his score submission shows 4.7G in the CPU speed tab and and his title of 6800U + 4.7 prescott. See his fervent submission of Aquamark scores with 4G P4 on the ARC but not one that was ran on LN2?
Anyways it could be that my runs all had weird Nature or the irritating nvidia clock pulling antics, guess we'll have to wait till macci Opp and the rest get their 68s. Still waiting to see if he submits the score... Wouldn't that be better though?? Much closer to 18k if Nature does 11+?

You tweaked windows 100%??? Disabling all the stuff etc etc... Ask Nvidia to tell you how to disable throtling cause you want to commercialise that Nvidia is the fastest card on the ORB:smileysex

Do the Vmodd...

Try running it again and again??? In 3dmark01 my score swings with 200 points...

[LardArse]

I've just broke 100K but it seems their site broke down now??

[fr33ze]

Originally posted by LardArse
I've just broke 100K but it seems their site broke down now??

great work LardArse, you really are putting the rest of the oc comunity to shame in AM3 right now.

[sierra_bound]

Congrats again, LA. Can't wait to see the screenshots. The AM3 site does appear to be down atm.

[Kanavit]

Originally posted by LardArse
I've just broke 100K but it seems their site broke down now??

awesome, 100k just like that. Shamino breaking milestones easily. what are the clocks? and what drivers? Aquamark3.com is down atm.

[Soulburner]

Actually it does, you may have found out by now but in D:\Documents and Settings\Username\My Documents\AquaMark3 it saves all the runs to be submitted later, a nice feature.

[sierra_bound]

LardArse, I think the AM3 site is back up if you want to submit your score.