The official Bulldozer Status

[Sn0wm@n]

Since the codename is several years old you can draw your own conclusions. Apparently the K in AMD codenames stands for Kryptonite to defeat "Superman"(aka Intel)

or maybe because amd is green just like the color of kryptonite ....

Either that or just making a bigger mountain out of a molehill, like Intel has done. Sandy Bridge round 1 will be 85% of the speed of the Gulftown, you watch

LOLL so 15% slower then gullftown right???

[Andrew LB]

Bulldozers are often used to move huge piles of crap from one place to another. I wonder if AMD's choice of nomenclature is to just combat the Intel hype over Sandy Bridge?

As much as I want AMD to get a solid chip on the market to give Intel a run... more and more i'm beginning to think AMDs naming of this chip has been overly arrogant. Combine that with how much information they've released/leaked on Bulldozer when the chip is still a ways away from release... and I'm starting to lean towards either Bulldozer turning out to be more of a garden hoe. Especially since I highly doubt Intel is just going to sit on their hands for a couple years waiting to get "bulldozed".
Don't get overly surprised when Intel keeps quiet until the long wait for bulldozer is over... and releases a chip to BURY the competition. (intel is notorious for doing this).

[Sn0wm@n]

cant wait for intel's magic chip to appear out of nowhere

[mongoled]

cant wait for intel's magic chip to appear out of nowhere

no where, what are you talking about? The little green men will bring it, errrrr actually make that little blue men, LOL

[FlanK3r]

Either that or just making a bigger mountain out of a molehill, like Intel has done. Sandy Bridge round 1 will be 85% of the speed of the Gulftown, you watch

I seen all what I need about SB. And did u seen review? Anandtech maybe 2 months ago made preview SB...Think, Zambezzi kick ass to SB in multithread operation.

[Aerwidh]

no, they're going to steal all the sand required to make wafers and thus reducing their supply to the market ... yaaargh!! perfect! (pirate voice)

Oooh, wicked!

[JF-AMD]

I think anyone making a definitive statement today about whether one chip or the other will have the upper hand just shows that they don't know all the facts. On either side. Let's wait until everything is out to start making those statements.

[Dimitriman]

No way John, youre telling us nerds not to speculate on hardware youre barking up the wrong tree

[god_43]

No way John, youre telling us nerds not to speculate on hardware youre barking up the wrong tree

this^

[Sn0wm@n]

no where, what are you talking about? The little green men will bring it, errrrr actually make that little blue men, LOL

no you got it all wrong ... its those bunny man who will bring it to us

[FlanK3r]

JF: but I am meaning, u know right reality ,-), because Sandy Bridge benchmarks are around the web (example at www.coolaler.com, some here in Intel forum, preview at Anandtech etc)

[Oliverda]

JF: but I am meaning, u know right reality ,-), because Sandy Bridge benchmarks are around the web (example at www.coolaler.com, some here in Intel forum, preview at Anandtech etc)

Sandy Bridge is an Intel product. Intel has different NDA, marketing, prices, etc than AMD has. It's very simple.

[FlanK3r]

yes, i know it, but its good for AMD ...I believe, Zambezi will more then good ,-)

[Epsilon84]

JF: but I am meaning, u know right reality ,-), because Sandy Bridge benchmarks are around the web (example at www.coolaler.com, some here in Intel forum, preview at Anandtech etc)

Yes, SB scores have been around for a while, but where are the BD benches?

[informal]

Yes, SB scores have been around for a while, but where are the BD benches?

AMD almost never leak benchmarks to 3rd parties before official launch.

[Epsilon84]

AMD almost never leak benchmarks to 3rd parties before official launch.

I've noticed that, definitely a different approach compared to Intel. As always, time will tell, but I think anyone saying at this stage 'XYZ will beat ABC' is full of it because there is next to no info regarding actual BD performance apart from slides, which I'll admit look impressive on paper...

I agree with JF-AMD, just wait for the chips to be released before making comparisons!

[FlanK3r]

I dont need BD benchmarks, better is good suprice for me . This tsrategy like me, to the latest time people dont know about performace (Denebs info was leaked 3/4 before launch, later in November 2008 with finale revision. But with Thubans was diferent, first benchmarks info was about only 14 day before launch ! And this same is last years with graphics, began it with HD4000...)

[god_43]

I've noticed that, definitely a different approach compared to Intel. As always, time will tell, but I think anyone saying at this stage 'XYZ will beat ABC' is full of it because there is next to no info regarding actual BD performance apart from slides, which I'll admit look impressive on paper...

I agree with JF-AMD, just wait for the chips to be released before making comparisons!

true, but we can still speculate.

[BrowncoatGR]

or maybe because amd is green just like the color of kryptonite ....

Actually i wasn't joking, it's true

Before it had either fancy brand names or even macho code names, AMD's
K-generation of processors,
beginning with the K5 in 1994, had their name inspired by Kryptonite,
the fictional element from comic books
that could bring the otherwise all-powerful Superman to his knees. In
this case Superman was Intel, whose
Pentium name was just catching on, but apparently no one took notice of
the fact that Superman is a good guy
and that only villains ever use Kryptonite. Yet the K has endured in the
names of various AMD chips for
nearly six years. AMD still turns out chips in the K6-2 family.

Also wikipedia

[Aberration]

As much as I want AMD to get a solid chip on the market to give Intel a run... more and more i'm beginning to think AMDs naming of this chip has been overly arrogant. Combine that with how much information they've released/leaked on Bulldozer when the chip is still a ways away from release... and I'm starting to lean towards either Bulldozer turning out to be more of a garden hoe. Especially since I highly doubt Intel is just going to sit on their hands for a couple years waiting to get "bulldozed".
Don't get overly surprised when Intel keeps quiet until the long wait for bulldozer is over... and releases a chip to BURY the competition. (intel is notorious for doing this).

Since they are notorious, there should be multiple examples. I am struggling to think of one.

[Aberration]

Actually i wasn't joking, it's true

Also wikipedia

They are only assuming at the intention of why Kryptonite was used, or that K even stood for Kryptonite.

But since its on the interwebz, it must be true.

[Mats]

Denebs info was leaked 3/4 before launch, later in November 2008 with finale revision. But with Thubans was diferent, first benchmarks info was about only 14 day before launch ! And this same is last years with graphics, began it with HD4000...

I guess the reason for that is called Shanghai. You saw Deneb benchmarks earlier because there were server CPU's already launched.

[FlanK3r]

I seen first Deneb benchamrks at April 2008 ...At this time was not Shanhai launched yet