2010 AMD Analyst Day Thread

[Pantsu]

Q2 Bulldozer sounds great after the disappointing Llano delay.

[haylui]

Q2 Bulldozer sounds great after the disappointing Llano delay.

I believe dragging Zambezi to Q2 2011 is a good move and an aggressive one since if they stick to original plan, it would be too late for people who are interested in getting new rig jump ship to SB instead waiting for BD.
After all, Llano wouldn't have the strength in CPU side to compete with SB anytime but overall user experience for ultra thin laptop and nettop/netbook.

[JF-AMD]

I'm sick of Turbo from both Intel and AMD. I would rather have the higher clocked chip to begin with.

This won't happen. You have to build your processors to clock to the worst case scenario and still stay under TDP.

When you buy a car you pay for brakes that can stop the car at 120MPH, even though you rarely drive over 60. You could probably cut down a lot of cost on the car if you only had to design to what people actually drive. But as long as the car can do 120MPH, you have to build brakes that will stop it. And those cost more.

If we did what you were asking for, we could build, for instance, a 4GHz processor that only goes up to 3.5GHz in some workloads. Worst of all, you might not know until you actually run your workload on it. People want absolutes and the only way to deliver that is by having a high characterization. Turbo CORE lets you unlock the rest of the potential.

[richierich]

man awesome news, BD desktop platform coming in Q2 '11.

[Manicdan]

This won't happen. You have to build your processors to clock to the worst case scenario and still stay under TDP.

the GPUs didnt work that way, which is why we have much more advanced throttling for things like furmark. its a limited scenario so they thought no real case would push it that much. but in truth maybe someone designs a program which is able to push it that hard. its performance will be incredible, which might mean no one will care if it throttles a little.

i think selling things at a higher clock and then add in throttling will help sell more (client side atleast would like a higher number without ever looking at benchmarks)

[trueblue]

So when are AM3+ socket motherboards going to make an appearance?

[kuroikenshi]

When you buy a car you pay for brakes that can stop the car at 120MPH, even though you rarely drive over 60. You could probably cut down a lot of cost on the car if you only had to design to what people actually drive. But as long as the car can do 120MPH, you have to build brakes that will stop it. And those cost more.

I prefer to use the comparison of dropping in a turbo in a car .

you can drive normal around the streets, but you know in the highway you can drop the pedal and overtake other cars (mainly blue cars with intel stickers all over them)

[Sn0wm@n]

They reduced the debt by 1.4Bn since last year... In this pace they should be debt free or near that in 2 or 3 years.

and then big budget development we might hope

I prefer to use the comparison of dropping in a turbo in a car .

you can drive normal around the streets, but you know in the highway you can drop the pedal and overtake other cars (mainly blue cars with intel stickers all over them)

LOLL nice one

[Lightman]

Great news JF

Now the exciting question is - if all core load can still allow 500MHz turbo how much of a jump we will get in poorly threaded software on one or two core loads?

[Oliverda]

Great news JF

Now the exciting question is - if all core load can still allow 500MHz turbo how much of a jump we will get in poorly threaded software on one or two core loads?

+1000MHz maybe?

I think that this "all cores can get +500MHz" thing confirms again that the BD will be a high frequency design arch.

[FlanK3r]

maybe +700 MHz for single and dual threads?

[JF-AMD]

Great news JF

Now the exciting question is - if all core load can still allow 500MHz turbo how much of a jump we will get in poorly threaded software on one or two core loads?

It would be higher.

There are more details about Turbo CORE that we are not revealing, when we launch you will see additional details that could make it even more exciting.

[gallag]

AMD, The promising slide company. Show some numbers ffs. If nice optimistic slides made a profit AMD would be buying back its fabs. Dont get me wrong, I have high hopes for bulldozer and think that AMD has a new energy about them and BD has every chance of being a bad-ass but I guess I am just pissed that every thread about AMD I click it is nothing but fing slides. SHOW ME THE MONEY.

[railer]

Hay pick your poison bud. Ether slides or announcements

[andos]

Sooo Fusion available today?

[kuroikenshi]

well... I suppose this does not only cover fusion but also 6900 series being right on schedule, unlike being said

[Oliverda]

Sooo Fusion available today?

"We are proud: this morning, at 4 a.m. Central Time, our first AMD Fusion customer shipments left our Singapore facility, bound for customers worldwide! This first Fusion shipment, which included our APUs codenamed “Ontario” and “Zacate,” marks the introduction of a new era for AMD, our customers, the industry, and most importantly, fo...r consumers around the world."

[FlanK3r]

It would be higher.

There are more details about Turbo CORE that we are not revealing, when we launch you will see additional details that could make it even more exciting.

whau, perfect

[informal]

AMD, The promising slide company. Show some numbers ffs. If nice optimistic slides made a profit AMD would be buying back its fabs. Dont get me wrong, I have high hopes for bulldozer and think that AMD has a new energy about them and BD has every chance of being a bad-ass but I guess I am just pissed that every thread about AMD I click it is nothing but fing slides. SHOW ME THE MONEY.

How about Fusion(Bobcat based) is shipping to customers,now.How about 1 year from tape out to product launch in BD case? How about 250 days from tape out to mass production in Ontario's case? They can't show you Bulldozer benchmarks,if that's what you are looking for.You got Zacate numbers just slightly prior to the launch,so don't expect different with Bulldozer benchmarks.

[Nintendork]

Is this real?





http://www.hwupgrade.it/news/apple/a...ple_34361.html

[MrMojoZ]

Is this real?

They do sell GPUs and or CPUs to those companies, so sure why not.

[Kej]

@Nintendork

This is slides from Financial Analyst Day, so yes, they are real.

You can find PDF's of the presentations here.

I think these slides were from the Client Platforms presentation.

Edit: Scrap that, they are from Mr Ghilardi's presentation, as below post by "Herr Larsson".

[marten_larsson]

@Nintendork

This is slides from Financial Analyst Day, so yes, they are real.

You can find PDF's of the presentations here.

I think these slides were from the Client Platforms presentation.

Nope, they're from Emilio Ghilardi's presentation (Senior Vice President and Chief Sales Officer).

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...xUeXBlPTM=&t=1

[Kej]

Nope, they're from Emilio Ghilardi's presentation (Senior Vice President and Chief Sales Officer).

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...xUeXBlPTM=&t=1

Haha, thanks!

Not surprised to be corrected, wasn't really that sure about it.

[freeloader]

This won't happen. You have to build your processors to clock to the worst case scenario and still stay under TDP.

When you buy a car you pay for brakes that can stop the car at 120MPH, even though you rarely drive over 60. You could probably cut down a lot of cost on the car if you only had to design to what people actually drive. But as long as the car can do 120MPH, you have to build brakes that will stop it. And those cost more.

If we did what you were asking for, we could build, for instance, a 4GHz processor that only goes up to 3.5GHz in some workloads. Worst of all, you might not know until you actually run your workload on it. People want absolutes and the only way to deliver that is by having a high characterization. Turbo CORE lets you unlock the rest of the potential.

I thought every chip you built was binned for speed/voltage?