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    Looks very consistent vs GTX480. My test bech is refusing to POST :grr:
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    Quote Originally Posted by initialised View Post
    Looks very consistent vs GTX480. My test bech is refusing to POST :grr:
    my 5970 didn't take long.... nor it did my bench pressing..

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    After reading the Spanish review, I got a better impression than with TPU... Also, I dont think we can rely too much on %.. If we were talking about low FPS, sure.. but talking about FPS in excess of say 80 FPS, 15-20% is really a high difference, like 16+ FPS which is quite good for something which uses the same chip, with little changes.. If GTX480 have been this, the feedback nVIDIA had would be a LOT different!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Picao84 View Post
    After reading the Spanish review, I got a better impression than with TPU... Also, I dont think we can rely too much on %.. If we were talking about low FPS, sure.. but talking about FPS in excess of say 80 FPS, 15-20% is really a high difference, like 16+ FPS which is quite good for something which uses the same chip, with little changes.. If GTX480 have been this, the feedback nVIDIA had would be a LOT different!
    Uh, what? % is the best thing you can look at, although it depends on the scenario what significance there is

    In a lot of games, going from 80 -> 100 fps isn't going to make a difference, whereas going from 20 -> 25 FPS minimum may be the difference between choppy and playable

    Of course, going from 12 -> 15 FPS is still equally unplayable, despite all those being 25% increases

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    I think I'm definitely going to sell my 480s and buy two 580s. I'm just ing pissed that Nvidia couldn't deliver these cards on day one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carfax View Post
    I think I'm definitely going to sell my 480s and buy two 580s. I'm just ing pissed that Nvidia couldn't deliver these cards on day one
    How do you think nVidia engineers feel?
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    http://vga.it168.com/a2010/1108/1123/000001123376.shtml

    http://www.ixbt.com/video3/gf110-part1.shtml



    But there is a GF110 and minor architectural changes. Initially, the Internet rumors that the GF110 will be doubled the number of texture units, but this is not true - in the chip are exactly the same number (64 TMU). But there is one index of performance associated with the processing of textures, which really doubled. And those readers who have followed the modifications of the Fermi architecture in GF104, probably already guessed, which will be discussed. Like the previous chip, mid-range, GF110 can handle (including bilinear filtering), texture data of all formats up to FP16 at full speed without losing clock cycles.
    Recall that the GF100 is not able to this, and the theoretical rate of processing FP16-textures, often used in modern 3D-games, with the first Fermi chip is twice lower than in GF104 and GF110. This architectural improvement can help to increase the rendering performance in many applications, using similar offscreen buffers (eg, HDR-rendering). This modification explains the earlier rumors of 128 TMU in GF110. Apparently, double data rate FP16 someone took over twice the number of texture units.
    But that's not all there, and the second architectural difference from GF110 GF100, although somewhat smaller in importance and influence - in the new GPU has been increased efficiency of the algorithm z-cull, why have introduced new formats tiles. This change may help increase performance in some cases, and we will check it in synthetic tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emertX View Post
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    156 euro more than GTX480, rofl. You can get Gigabyte GTX580 for 444, though.
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    30k vantage on a single chip card :O

    I hope nvidia can translate that sorta vantage performance to real world games as well because that would be just MAD, nice to see nvidia finally beat their own 295 in terms of sheer muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowie View Post
    http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6185/1b485341be13309a.png[/IMG]
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    The CPU test 2 score is a tad low, I think a GTX 480 stock scores 200+ fps.

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    Friggin Charlie. He says their was going to be no cards and only certain press was going to get them and the card wasn't going to be on sale this year. With all the sapphire banner ads and AMD banner's on his website, he should not be calling anyone a shill.

    When it comes to quantity, I don't think Charlie is close to being correct on this one. He got the specs wrong a bit(128TMU), the quantities wrong,

    He's got me in such a pessimistic mood about Nvidia and such a positive outlook on AMD/ATI, I thought nv's goose was cooked this round with not products at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
    Friggin Charlie. He says their was going to be no cards and only certain press was going to get them and the card wasn't going to be on sale this year. With all the sapphire banner ads and AMD banner's on his website, he should not be calling anyone a shill.

    When it comes to quantity, I don't think Charlie is close to being correct on this one. He got the specs wrong a bit(128TMU), the quantities wrong,

    He's got me in such a pessimistic mood about Nvidia and such a positive outlook on AMD/ATI, I thought nv's goose was cooked this round with not products at all.
    His article on 580 was laughable in several respects. For example he said the cards were gonna be 750MHz (turned out to be 770MHz but that's not the problem), and used that as a proof that he was right one year ago that the original targets were 750MHz. How does the fact that an upgraded version of a GPU features higher clocks prove that he was right one year ago?

    Also it looks like he was wrong about the "extreme paper launch" he expected the 580 was gonna be. He clearly said "this launch doesn't matter to you customers, you won't be able to get hands on a card before January", which doesn't look like the case at all, I can even say that it's better than the 5850/5870 launch in initial availability.
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    Well it seems people shut their mouths up about having cards this time around. W1zzard claimed not to have one but there's his review.

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    Ninja release from nvidia, JHH himself said no cards till next year, we say some cayman numbers lots of expectation created around it etc etc this comes out of nowhere and kicks it in the nuts. And now suddenly we hear cayman might be delayed etc etc methinks its suddenly developed cold feet :P

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    Anyone got a link for the 262.99 driver?
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    Oddly it's pretty competitive with 810mhz GTX 460 SLI http://techreport.com/articles.x/19934 Faster on minimum FPS in some cases and maybe 10% slower on average... I'm pleasantly surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japamd View Post
    The CPU test 2 score is a tad low, I think a GTX 480 stock scores 200+ fps.
    Agreed, I just got 59k with 225fps @ Stock settings.



    I've seen similar results on other DDR5 cards, basically once you push the memory to hard performance begins to degrade as error checking kicks in.
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    At $499, the GTX 580 competes strongly with ATI Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity6 2GB video cards. We considered adding the Radeon HD 5970 into our review, but at the time it was fetching a $660 cost. As of yesterday, we are now finding one HD 5970 for $499.99 so surely we are already seeing the GTX 580 have an impact on the high end video card market. And of course this change in price demands a new comparison review from us.
    [H]OCP Review of GTX580

    I don't see the logic in his statement. Wait, let's see, he tests using and AMD Eyefinity6 2GB card which he never really even uses the 6 screen output and the extra 1GB is most likely giving a 1% or 2% better framerate(if at all in some games) and then compares it to the $499.00 GTX580.

    Um, hello, why compare a niche E6 5870 when its not needed. I know why, so he can say the GTX580 and E6 5870 are evenly price matched.

    He should have used a regular HD5870 which can be had for $300 ~ $320.

    And he leaves out the 5970 in which he claims was just recently found for $499.00 but was somehow $660.00($160 MORE) just a week ago or so when he was testing the cards. Sounds like BS to me.

    So basically what he was doing was testing a $320 card to a $499.00 and claiming they were evenly price matched. Sorry Brent, you lose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by initialised View Post
    Anyone got a link for the 262.99 driver?
    They only support this card, you will also need modded inf.

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    The cards got really impressive thermals as well, HC review in metro its as cool as new 6xxx, even with the stock cooler i think this baby is gonna happily take a few volts and clock nice...... aww I so want one.

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    This card AMD

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    Quote Originally Posted by cx-ray View Post
    This card AMD
    thats cute, lol

    i think many people would agree IF... it came out when 480 was suppose to come out (meaning 10-11 months ago). however i feel that it might not be that impressive once we see AMDs offerings. it really is a shame how long it took to get their end result, things for 2010 could have been so much more if this was out from the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Your_Boss View Post
    [H]OCP Review of GTX580

    I don't see the logic in his statement. Wait, let's see, he tests using and AMD Eyefinity6 2GB card which he never really even uses the 6 screen output and the extra 1GB is most likely giving a 1% or 2% better framerate(if at all in some games) and then compares it to the $499.00 GTX580.

    Um, hello, why compare a niche E6 5870 when its not needed. I know why, so he can say the GTX580 and E6 5870 are evenly price matched.

    He should have used a regular HD5870 which can be had for $300 ~ $320.

    And he leaves out the 5970 in which he claims was just recently found for $499.00 but was somehow $660.00($160 MORE) just a week ago or so when he was testing the cards. Sounds like BS to me.

    So basically what he was doing was testing a $320 card to a $499.00 and claiming they were evenly price matched. Sorry Brent, you lose!
    Ironically, I can tell you that AMD has been sending out emails to reviewers talking about the new HD 5970 price @ ~$499 since last week. I am SURE HardOCP got those emails....plus, Newegg dropped their HD 5970 price mid last week.

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