Ehm, compared to what? The 6870 and 6850 are priced at about half of the GTX580 so there's no way to compare them. It's like saying GT430 is aty card because the 5870 is muuuuch faster (but I'm not sure that argument is valid because the GT430 is a
ty card compared to the similarly priced ATI/AMD offering).
The new generation of AMD is just as much a new generation as the GTX580. Both are redesigns of current architectures...





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