Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
There has to be some negatives, there are rarely changes that only result in positives. Increased power consumption is already one.

I think your assuming everything is shader limited and there will be a linear increase in performance with shader increase. This has been proven wrong almost entirely this generation.


AMD this time is going to at best increase performance by 50% because there is only a 50% increase in real shaders. There is a big but this time around.

Much of the purpose of changing to a new architecture again, is trying to make those spec gains linear again.
AMD is trying to balance DP, Tesselation and keeping shaders fed is a priority due to the lack of efficiency on cypress.
AMD is lacking tesselation output and DP power for their professional setup.
Cayman will be a good balanced card with shader and geometry output.

Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post
When it does, I'll sig you.
Andy warhol once said, being famous is 15 minutes in the spotlight.

Nvidas Fermi beats AMD with tesslation which for people who dont understand it is the future of gaming on the PC, due to tesselation we can increase eyecandy while keeping fps high.
We are talking better than crysis 1 and 2 graphics here and better frames per second with tesselation than crysis 1 and 2.

Now, AMD or rather, Richard Huddy states, well our cards have enough tess (damage control) with image/fps quality.(not true)

A game developer thinks, Gee, tessselation allows me to build a cheaper set of textures, due to less time is needed to create the art assest, but they have to build for people who can run the game, which isnt the case with 4800 series from amd, not with their 5800 series and not their 6800 series.

Maybe the adress this in their 6900 series, but then its a 400+us cash game. For that you can buy both a xbox360 and a ps3 with motion gaming for the family.

Fermi is unbalanced card for the moment, the 580gtx shows how its done and it is still on 40nm, with 28nm they be rocking due to what they have learned from their implementation and yes, they still build big chips.
Faster dosnt allow small.

Its like guys and their e-penis, if its big and powerful they feel really good about themself, if its small and efficient they can fool themselves until they met a girl, who knows big and powerful when she see one.

In the technology you need money and resources, Intel got those in spades so does Nvidia.
AMD is still a low budget company with horrible marketing.

People dont buy that often with wellinformed decisions, they buy from benchmarks and just walking into the store buying a computer.
They buy what they know off and it isnt AMD.

Intel inside, the way it meant to be played with NVidia.
Now, where is AMD in that arena?
Nowhere....