AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[saaya]

The price of the GTX 580 is too high for me to consider unless the performance is mind blowing.

you mean as in 3x faster than we need? ^^

seriously, whoever NEEDS that performance is gaming at 2560x1600+ or 1920x1080+ 3D, and if you can afford a display for 500-1000$ then youd have a weird sense of value if you consider 550$ for a vga to feed that display too much...

i think the real dealbreaker for both nvidia and ati right now is the lack of killer apps, ie games, plus the high cost of 24"+ displays... if displays were cheaper AND/OR there would be at least 2 kick 4ss games that NEED a highend gpu to be maxed out, highend would actually sell some actual volume and not be a corporate e-peen contest

Whew, didn't mean to rile people up with my response, but usually most reviews I've seen show a 25+% gap between 5870 and 480 @ 2560x1600

what reviews?

normalized there is a 10% difference on average according to tpu
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Zotac/GeFo...rfrel_2560.gif

anandtech 2560x1600 max:

0% difference in BFBC2
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33205.png

~5% difference in Wolfenstein
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33236.png

~10% difference in crysis warhead
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33215.png

~10% difference in metro2033
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33230.png

~15% difference in dirt2
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33221.png

~20% difference in hawx
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33224.png

~20% difference in ME2
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33227.png

~30% difference in civ5 (no driver tweaking yet from ati i think)
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33212.png

~30% difference in Stalker CoP
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33233.png
(unplayable on either one, at playable settings the difference is only ~20%)
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33232.png

~30% difference in battleforge (why is it in dx10 and not 11?)
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph3987/33209.png

thats 16-17% difference between the 5870 and the 480 on average according to anandtech, which i think chose a very good selection of games...

the 480 has MUCH better min fps than the 5870 and 68xx... but av fps is in no way 25% faster on average, and 25%+ on average, thats just ridiculous man, i wanna see those reviews
n-zone? ^^

[safan80]

you mean as in 3x faster than we need? ^^

seriously, whoever NEEDS that performance is gaming at 2560x1600+ or 1920x1080+ 3D, and if you can afford a display for 500-1000$ then youd have a weird sense of value if you consider 550$ for a vga to feed that display too much...

lol I would not want to paid that price for performance close to the 5970 I want a lot more performance. I want to game at 200fps at 2560x1600 is that too much to ask for?

[saaya]

lol I would not want to paid that price for performance close to the 5970 I want a lot more performance. I want to game at 200fps at 2560x1600 is that too much to ask for?

well that almost IS 3x as much as anybody needs ^^

but yeah, after all the time of the 5970 being out, getting about the same perf for 25% less than the launch msrp of the 5970 isnt really amazing...

[safan80]

well that almost IS 3x as much as anybody needs ^^

but yeah, after all the time of the 5970 being out, getting about the same perf for 25% less than the launch msrp of the 5970 isnt really amazing...

I should add I want idle power usage from my graphics cards. I could care less about load but some of the Nvidia cards have insane idle usage. If they made a GTX 580 dual gpu card I would be interested. Sadly Nvidia releasing a real Fermi card a year after they promised it kinda of pisses me off.

[BababooeyHTJ]

well that almost IS 3x as much as anybody needs ^^

but yeah, after all the time of the 5970 being out, getting about the same perf for 25% less than the launch msrp of the 5970 isnt really amazing...

On a single gpu it would be. Heck has 5970 ever sold at msrp?

[bill_d]

you mean as in 3x faster than we need? ^^

seriously, whoever NEEDS that performance is gaming at 2560x1600+ or 1920x1080+ 3D, and if you can afford a display for 500-1000$ then youd have a weird sense of value if you consider 550$ for a vga to feed that display too much...

but only had to buy my 30" once but have had to buy two gpu's a year and yes it adds up, so about 350 per gpu is about right or the 700 i payed for a 5970