Live MB OC Report :: ASUS Rampage Extreme

[JohnZS]

Thanks Leeghoofd
Any ideas as to what could cause a reboot on loop 12 of 32m hyper pi?
I have just raised PL to see if that helps...


EDIT: YEP I think that has done the trick as 32M hyper Pi's using 4 processes has completed
I'll keep an eye on things now....see if games even work!
John

[Zeus]

Raising PL kills performance. Reboot is more cpu related i guess. Try more Vcore.

[Leeghoofd]

Think he needs more NB volt Eugene , he's only at 1.4ish or so... with 8GB and a quad that's already nice... I would try 1.5ish with an active cooler...

[Zeus]

Hmmm, yeah that's sounds a bit too low but not enough volts to the NB usually causes the system to freeze, reboot is usually cpu from my experience.

[JohnZS]

Thank you for the comprehensive advice Zeus and Leeghoofd
I have made slight voltage adjustments. (very small bump in vFSB and vCore)
Since doing this I have been able to perform a 32M Hyper Pi
And I performed a 20run of Linx using ALL Free RAM ~6800MB



As you can see the CPU gets rather toasty :p
What do those results look like to you guys?

PS My NB volts are 1.31V :p and my CPU Core is 1.28V, PLL = 1.56 and VTT = 1.23V

Thought I might add this for good measure...


Thanks
John

[systemviper]

big problem - HELP


Hi, i think i might have blown one of my REX's

it doesn's post anymore, when i poweer it up it does nothing.

but if i take out the 12v pin plug it starts to run the fans and such but
doesn post.

this makes me think it's a short of somekind, not sure. I have read about this problkem in several forums but there was no solution. So if anyone has any suggestions please help


the pins in the socket are all fine... i have tested it with several cpu;s

done all thzat process of elimination stuff to no avail....
this board was a 630fsb monster i hate to loose it....

there wans;t any sparks or any blown components so i am hoping that there might be some hope somewherer...


thanks in advance for any help anyone can give me.....

best regards.SV

[JohnZS]

Ouch Viper that sounds pretty terminal
Have you tried POSTING from the Other BIOS?
There is a flip switch on the board where you can determine which BIOS to boot from. Try switching it to POST from BIOS 2 and see if that helps?
Another suggestion is have you tried using a different PSU?
(yes it might sound stupid, but sometimes PSU's after time can degrade, especially if they are under a lot of load for a long time)

Aside from these ideas, I am a bit of a newbie when it comes to anything technical. I assumed you tried POSTING with just one stick of RAM? and removed all devices other than your VGA and then even swapped ports the VGA was using.
What does your LCD poster say it is halting on?
John

[CryptiK]

SV - I replied your other thread. Best of luck.

John - that's not to toasty, theres more in it

Been doing some work finding settings for my Q9650/REX/4GB Ram as well after throwing the system together a while back. Seems to be going well so far. If I gave it some more vNB I think PL7 is doable. At these settings with PL7 everest read is 11 2XX MB/s Not bad for a quad with 4GB on an X48.

Current stable(ish) settings are: 4GHz (445x9) @ 1.216v (load) | 4GB @ DDR3-1780 MHz | 7-8-7-20 1T | 1.62vdimm | PL8 | CT Mod @ 1.36 vNB


LinX all mem




25mins Large FFT testing (this ran for over 2 hours before I stopped it to do other things)




Everest at same settings as above stress testing

[JohnZS]

I am VERY impressed CryptiK

I am also close to stability, CLOSE and I sense VERY close. This is what I can do

1) 20 x Linx ALL Free RAM (~6800MB)
2) 3 runs of Memtestx86.
3) 5 runs of Metro 2033 Benchmark
4) 5 runs of 3dmark06
5) 5 runs of 3dmark Vantage
6) 32M Hyper Pi all processors (4)
7) Auto(1hr) OCCT 3.10 stress test

However After ~2hours of playing Just Cause 2, mid game I got a Random Blue Screen Entitled "System Service Exception"

What really impresses me with your settings CryptiK is you are not really using ANY DRAM Voltage at all (I am currently camped on 1.85V) AND you are running at 1T!! I am unsure as to whether I should treat the BSOD as a One off, or look into playing with more settings. If so, what would you suggest I alter?

At the moment my settings are perhaps a bit too aggressive?

RAM is set to 7,7,7,24 With a Row Refresh of 88 and a Command Rate of 2T
This is At a PL of 7!

NB = 1.36V
DRAM Volts = 1.85V

Aside from that random one off Blue Screen I am VERY impressed with how this system is running with 8GB @ 1600Mhz
John

[CryptiK]

Thanks, yeah it's not bad, better than I thought. I honestly didn't think I'd get DDR3-1780 MHz CL7 stable at 445 FSB at PL8 especially with a vNB of 1.36v. I'm getting heat limited with the cpu though, it's a very hot 1.2125 VID and I was getting 70*C on all 4 cores in LinX. The NB is also hitting 66*C as I can't easily actively cool in while in the case. Aircooling is weird compared to my i7 water setup.

My ram voltage is all that the Elpida BBSE IC's need at those speeds/timings. My kit is quite good too it seems (just using 2 sticks from a 6GB triple channel kit).

For your instability, it could be anything, but I'd first try increasing NB GTL to about +30mv if you haven't already. You could also give it a notch or 2 more vNB then see what happens during gaming. I think that 8GB/400 FSB/PL7 is probably stressing the MCH pretty hard.

EDIT - Oh BTW I would highly recommend you run some Prime 95 large FFT/Blend. It was always the hardest test for me to get to pass on this system with a quad and 4GB ram.

[JohnZS]

Thank you very much Cryptik. I have changed my NB Gtl value to +30mv. I will run that prime 95 test for 2hours? and see how the PC copes. I guess I may have to go to PL8 if I cannot get stable as the Intel spec for X48 does suggest PL8 for 1600Mhz Memory speeds.
Thanks again.
John
BTW how do you determine what your RAM IC's are?

[CryptiK]

Yeah 2-3 hours is ok for initial stability testing. If you're on the way up speedwise, lowering PL, testing new timings etc just an hour or so to show you're on the right track is what I do tbh. Once I am trying to really dial in a specific setting(s) I run it for longer.

I'm comfortable at PL8 at DDR3-1780 so I think you should be able to make PL7 happen. With no NB GTL dialed in you were doing well as it is, I think increasing that to +30mv will help a lot. Helped me with my setup, and helped me I was doing 630+ FSB SPI32M runs on DICE with my 8600.

I knew mine were BBSE when I bought them as the first rev was reviewed and heat spreaders were removed. Myself and some others jumped on them right away. They since changed to other IC's as most ram does. You've just got see a few people report the same IC type for a specific revision of stick/kit and jump on them and hope for the best.

If you want to know what yours are, you have to research or look under the spreaders but it can kill sticks if you take them off wrong. Unless you know how, I would't risk it. You can sort of tell what youre running by how they behave too.

[JohnZS]

I started to get major stability issues. Could not pin it down either. upping PL and CAS. did not sort anything. It's strange can Prime95 for hours. Full linx 20x. and 3 passes of memtest as well as OCCT. but random and hard to repro gaming issues are preventing full stability.
NB can reach 60c in GTA IV! Game is stable yet occasionally artifacts yet resumes normally.
Weird or just more vRAM required?
Thanks
John

[CryptiK]

Possibly. Have you tested ram with the windows based app HCI Memtest? You'll need to run 4+ instances of it to test 8GB, but's its harder on ram than anything else I've used IMO.

Is your vid card stable? If its overclocked too, tried gaming with it running stock?

[Don_Dan]

I think your NB is crapping out due to temps, my NB doesn't like temps over 60°C at all. When gaming the VGA will heat up your case, did you try to add more fans to dump the heat out of your case?

[Splave]

uh oh mine is not booting

Starts up HDD light is lit, fans keep spinning but no display and it just stays running like that.
Tryed both bios'

what is the flashback jumper on the bottom supposed to be on? all the way to the right?
Any idears?

[zsamz_]

I started to get major stability issues. Could not pin it down either. upping PL and CAS. did not sort anything. It's strange can Prime95 for hours. Full linx 20x. and 3 passes of memtest as well as OCCT. but random and hard to repro gaming issues are preventing full stability.
NB can reach 60c in GTA IV! Game is stable yet occasionally artifacts yet resumes normally.
Weird or just more vRAM required?
Thanks
John

i never saw my nb temps go over 40c even @ 1.7v
i had a moded katana3 on it

uh oh mine is not booting

Starts up HDD light is lit, fans keep spinning but no display and it just stays running like that.
Tryed both bios'

what is the flashback jumper on the bottom supposed to be on? all the way to the right?
Any idears?

discharge the board
move jumper to the right
try booting from bios2
reseat everything

[Splave]

which one



thanks btw

[Zeus]

uh oh mine is not booting

Starts up HDD light is lit, fans keep spinning but no display and it just stays running like that.
Tryed both bios'

what is the flashback jumper on the bottom supposed to be on? all the way to the right?
Any idears?

What does the LCD poster say?

Try pulling the battery for 5 mins.

You can force the board to boot from the other bios with the switch that is less than an inch above CHA_FAN2 in the pic you posted.

[Splave]

I dont have the lcd poster oops lol certainly might help huh

will yoink the battery and see what happens. Im using 2x1gb of hyper that worked okay before but will try different sticks

[JohnZS]

I think your NB is crapping out due to temps, my NB doesn't like temps over 60°C at all. When gaming the VGA will heat up your case, did you try to add more fans to dump the heat out of your case?

I think you are onto something here Don_Dan.

I can run Furmark for an hour, my GTX 295 does get very hot! It reaches 88C on Core1 and 87C on Core2! (this is after an hour).

I am not sure if these are the correct settings, but I ran @ 1920*1200 16X FSAA

With PostFX, Displacement Mapping and XtremeBurn mode enabled.

What is really odd is that I have the same issues with Just Cause 2 when my Processor and Ram are at stock speeds.

I also do not notice much of a difference in NB temperature between Overclocked and Stock. (We are talking a Max out of 57C Vs 60C)

It is certainly making me think that the GTX 295 Single PCB is turning my case into an oven because 20 runs of Linx using the Full amount of Free RAM only heats the NB up to 54C.. and it DOES cool quickly after Linx has finished.

Gaming seems to heat things up and it takes longer to cool down.

I have 6 Case fans. (120mm Gentle Typhoons).

With the exception of the NB Temperature, I do not think my CPU or even Graphics card temperatures are that bad. I have fitted the ASUS Fan to my NB (which is pretty loud actually), and that does not appear to have made any difference to temperatures

I am putting the Just Cause 2 issue down to a driver bug as Google shows other people have the same issue. However the GTA IV thing I feel certainly was NB related as this NEVER happens at stock.

oddly 3dmark Vantage and 3dmark06 can run in loops of 5 with no problems at all.

I have experimented with a variety of strap settings and NB and DRAM Voltage. It is odd that I can pass 2 full runs of Memtest with 1.28V on the NB and 1.76V on the DRAM. Yet require at least 1.33V on the NB and 1.88V on the DRAM to be 3dmark loop stable :P

I have my PCI-E Clock set to 100Mhz, I did dabble with 101Mhz as in the old days this used to help with stability (Pentium 4 OCing). However for some reason I get instant BSOD's on Windows Logon with PCI-E raised by 1Mhz.

I was hoping by now ASUS would have released another BIOS for us to play with with the Refresh Period settings and some tweaking for 8GB + Quad Core.

I may give up on this, unless you think I should try and play with CPU GTL's and DRAM Skew :P

Surely some people on here have had a dabble at 45nm Quad + 8GB on this fine board?

John

[CryptiK]

sure does sound like your gfx card though if you have the same issue at stock settings for everything else. using the best drivers?

[JohnZS]

Hmm thanks, for that CryptiK I shall look into the issue further.
Even with underclocking and 1066Mhz RAM speed I get this issue in Just Cause 2 Only!
What slot do you guys use your graphics cards in?
I have reported it as a driver bug to nVidia :P
John

[CryptiK]

I use the top most pci-e slot. I haven't gamed on it as it just has the basic testing apps on it atm but it passes looped 3DM06/Vantage without issue. I'm actually running at PL6 at 445 FSB/DDR3-1780MHz CL7 so I don't think theres an issue with the NB being pushed too hard by gfx unless of course 8GB makes it a whole lot harder. You are getting the issue stock, so I'd be inclined to guess its a driver issue with that game only. Can you play Crysis/BFBC2 ok? They both are pretty tough on the system.

[rotamonkey]

hey fellas after using this board for at least a year now I settled with my dominator 1800 running at 1600 pl5 7-7-7-20 1N the cpu is an e8500 at 3.8. Ive tried to get them up to 1800 with no luck, havent tried skews yet if anyones got a good article about how to adjust them. I want to try to get my cpu running faster and while Im at it get some better ram that can actually run a 1800.

I just wanted to check if there is any place for us x48 people to get new memory or is all the high voltage stuff discontinued. can we use any of the new low voltage stuff?