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    Quote Originally Posted by kaktus1907 View Post
    nvidia says
    According to SKYMTL, nvidia should be embarrassed to position the GTX460 against Barts (the second part of the sentence was my interpretation).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Zeus View Post
    I'd much rather a pair of 475's

    werent the 475's discontinued ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loque View Post
    from [url]

    so much for twice the tessellation if the 6870 is at a 5850 level..
    Dude you can't
    1) compare numbers directly across different setups
    2) 2x tess doesn't mean other things aren't going on. The fact it can beat a 5870 despite having less units in the test should tell you things are being boosted somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    I would really consider the 6850, but with it's 150w load draw, and the fact that it only has 1 aux power connector I'm affraid it may limit it's OC potential...

    Does that make sense to anyone else or am I wrong...


    and those are only refference board for now ... we might get better stuff for non refference boards

    btw will we get an official thread listing all the 6800 reviews instead of this thread???
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    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    According to SKYMTL, nvidia should be embarrassed to position the GTX460 against Barts (the second part of the sentence was my interpretation).
    What's embarrassing is that some sites took NVIDIA suggestion and actively tested the GTX 460 OCs against the HD 6800 series without providing OC HD 6800 results for comparison.

    I was going to do just that but my life got a bit tangled at the last minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    What's embarrassing is that some sites took NVIDIA suggestion and actively tested the GTX 460 OCs against the HD 6800 series without providing OC HD 6800 results for comparison.
    yeah legit reviews seems kinda fishy

    so far techpowerup is the best review, went into alot of detail

    especially this page on OC/voltage

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/H...D_6870/32.html

    looks like 1000mhz @1.275v

    a nice update to MSI afterburner should get ride of the CCC limits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxforces View Post
    Mutli_GPU configurations should be tested on the latest drivers for all Graphics Card not only HD68xx, for that you can not compare scaling with HD58xx,GTX4xx
    Indeed, good thing I was comparing it with sli. How much fps difference are we talking bout here if they did latest drivers. Care to quantify? No? ok good just take it as face value for what it is and know that crossfire looks good enough looking at the techpowerup review added to the mix.

    2nd edit Here ya go Maxforces AT crossfire: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/a...range-market/6
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/a...ange-market/12



    I love that Hardocp included Civ V. That game really taxes any current gen Nvidia or AMD in DX11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kadozer View Post
    That game really taxes any current gen Nvidia or AMD in DX11.
    I would love to know how sites are testing Civ. I have yet to experience a way to objectively benchmark it without running into a processor bottleneck on high-end systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    What's embarrassing is that some sites took NVIDIA suggestion and actively tested the GTX 460 OCs against the HD 6800 series without providing OC HD 6800 results for comparison.
    btw... great review of the HD6850 & HD6870.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post
    yeah legit reviews seems kinda fishy

    so far techpowerup is the best review, went into alot of detail

    especially this page on OC/voltage

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/H...D_6870/32.html

    looks like 1000mhz @1.275v

    a nice update to MSI afterburner should get ride of the CCC limits
    especially with this




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    how it came out that HD5870 has different results

    NVIDIA: 258.96
    ATI: Catalyst 10.7
    HD 6800: Catalyst 10.10 Oct 12 HD6870 has been tested only on the latest drivers
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post
    yeah legit reviews seems kinda fishy

    so far techpowerup is the best review, went into alot of detail

    especially this page on OC/voltage

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/H...D_6870/32.html

    looks like 1000mhz @1.275v

    a nice update to MSI afterburner should get ride of the CCC limits

    watercooling block for the 6800 series should get more oc out of those i presume ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    I would love to know how sites are testing Civ. I have yet to experience a way to objectively benchmark it without running into a processor bottleneck on high-end systems.
    Yeah I know exactly what you mean as a Civ V player. Hardocp states the simulated a small world environment with army battles. Just shows how really taxing this game is, as the larger maps and ai actions in between turns are exponentially bigger as you go from 8 , 16+ players.
    They state they ran FRAPS for 5 min runs. Not sure how reliable that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kadozer View Post
    Yeah I know exactly what you mean as a Civ V player. Hardocp states the simulated a small world environment with army battles. Just shows how really taxing this game is, as the larger maps and ai actions in between turns are exponentially bigger as you go from 8 , 16+ players.
    They state they ran FRAPS for 5 min runs. Not sure how reliable that is.
    I'm a big Civ player as well (when I have the time) but I have yet to see a situation where a "battle" results in lower FPS than just panning the map. Even a nuke being used later in the game doesn't really have all that much of an impact.

    Heck, it isn't even true 3D; it uses an updated version of 2D sprites with some DX11 features thrown in.

    From my experience, the game is seriously CPU bottlenecked once the AI kicks in which means the lowest performance will be when changing turns. Not when the GPU is loaded.

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    Guru3d review is up again + Crossfire review

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    Strategy games are notoriously hard to benchmark since they're so CPU intensive... and my experiences with Civ 5 are almost always CPU related it seems

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    I wanted to chime in and say good review too, SKYMTL. As usual techpowerup is great, and techreport is another I'm waiting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    I wanted to chime in and say good review too, SKYMTL. .
    I take it you read the conclusion this time too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post
    What's embarrassing is that some sites took NVIDIA suggestion and actively tested the GTX 460 OCs against the HD 6800 series without providing OC HD 6800 results for comparison.
    anand included the evga 460 1gb ftw.
    the results were surprising, as it was besting the gtx 470 and 6870.
    (although wattage was obviously alot higher than a 6870)
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    Guru3D

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...0-6870-review/
    http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...sfirex-review/

    TechPowerUp!

    6870
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6870/
    6850 Direct
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...850_Direct_Cu/
    6850
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6850/
    6870CFX
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...870_CrossFire/
    6850 CFX
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...850_CrossFire/

    Hexus

    http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27053

    HardwareCanucks

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...50-review.html

    TechGage

    http://techgage.com/article/amd_radeon_hd_6870_hd_6850/

    LegitReviews

    http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1445/1/

    Tweaktown:

    6850
    http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/360...ard/index.html
    6870
    http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/360...ard/index.html

    [H]ard|OCP

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...eo_card_review

    Anandtech


    http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/a...idrange-market

    HOT Hardware:

    http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-R...-Debut/?page=1

    Techgage:

    http://techgage.com/article/amd_rade...6870_hd_6850/1

    Legion Hardware:


    http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...hd_6870,1.html

    InsideHW:

    http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...-Diamonds.html

    Bit-Tech:

    6850
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-6850-review/1
    6870
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...-6870-review/1

    Bjorn3D:

    http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1941

    Overclock3D:

    6850/6870
    http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/g..._6870_review/1
    6870 CFX
    http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/g...usive_review/1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoulz View Post
    btw... great review of the HD6850 & HD6870.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimREEFER View Post
    anand included the evga 460 1gb ftw.
    the results were surprising, as it was besting the gtx 470 and 6870.
    (although wattage was obviously alot higher than a 6870)
    Sure. But it needs to be put into context; it's one of (if not THE) highest clocked GTX 460 on the market today. We'll have a review of it but I don't agree with piggybacking something like that onto a launch-day review without providing comparison testing. To each their own I guess....

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