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    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    I don't believe so as that's an FB-DIMM.
    nope..pretty sure its not
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss View Post
    nope..pretty sure its not
    I'm not sure where the actual specs for it are, but when I google it half the etailers list it as an FB-DIMM. MemoryTen for example says FB-DIMM (will not work) and 256x4 (also no).
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    Good afternoon all,

    Ok - so my 1880 arrived yesterday - fired it up on the UD7/980 last night and continued to tinker with it this morning. It is probably 3/4 inch longer than the 1231.

    Results so far have been mixed. I could not format the array with the drives set to sata 300 and with the drives set to sata 150 the performance - particularly sequential reads - seems well below par.

    I have tried all different controller settings, also storeport and scsiport drivers, all using the latest F/W.

    Below is AS SSD - 980 at 4500, pcie 107, all raid 0 acard 9010 - 3x up to 11x, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! -





    On a lighter note – how about a little “dynamic disk” fun!

    So UD7/980 at stock, Areca 1231-4G, Areca 1880 1GB, each with 4xR0 Acard 9010s.
    Softraided with W7 dynamic disk/stripping – NTFS, allocation (cluster) size – 64K –



    How about using this dynamic array as a pcm05 target? – not bad considering no oc



    Happy snaps to follow –







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    Also - forgot to mention - this is with 1880 using 1GB cache - 4GB should arrive next week.

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    This is the 1880 with 12xR0 Acards on the little GGBT H55N/655K (clarkdale) at 4500 - again bad sequential reads


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    strange. are you using the beta firmware? seems to work best. i would fire off an email to areca asking them about your formatting issue. they respond very quickly (they are on different time zone though)

    can you try setting the drives at 150 and testing the sequential with it? maybe we can have a baseline result from the 1231 to compare to.
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    @SteveRo - wow, something is definitely wrong there. I wonder why the SATA 300 isn't working?

    To everyone- I've been running my 1880 for a few weeks now and it seems like my average controller temp is around 54 C. Is this acceptable for normal use? Or should I try and put some additional air on it?
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    Steve

    I'm using the latest official fw/bios.
    I did have bad numbers for sequential io way back when I had the 1GB stick installed , can't recall if the 4GB stick resolved the issue or if it was some setting.

    Here is my current system config settings, 2R0 X25M = 500MB/s ++ on reads. (4KB strip size)
    1880_SYS_CONFIG.JPG HDT_SEQ_1880_2R0_X25M.png

    @Spoiler,
    Mine is hovering at ~45C, I've got a small 8cm low speed fan blowing directly at it. (In a Corsair 800D case, no special cooling at all, almost silent)
    Without that little fan it would be close to your temp.
    Last edited by Anvil; 10-08-2010 at 03:03 PM.
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    I´m looking for a comparison (only realworld) between ARC-1231/1261/1280ML and ARC-1880.
    I to prefer OS-Boot (incl. initialisation), App- and Game-Loading. (or the 104-app-loadup from NapalmV5)

    And which SATA-HDDs (Non-Raid-Edition) running stable with the 1880?
    I think, the 1880 is very b-i-t-c-h-y with SATA-Drives.

    I the past i heard the ARC-16xx-Series simulates the SATA-Protocoll only by software. And the 1880 is a SAS-HBA, too.
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    I tested 16hitachi 2tb drives, and it worked great in raid-5 and 6 wit Areca 1880ix-24. I do not know about other sata drives, but Hitachi is good enough for me

    ~1gb/s read and write raid-6

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    Which Hitachi? http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=...tachi~958_2000

    1gb/s without cache?

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    1880ix-24 +4gb cache

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    16x Hitachi 2TB Raid-0
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    Testing LSI based SAS expanders in supermicro cases with 48 1.5 TB seagates in raid60 is giving me:

    Reads:

    Code:
    livecd ~ # nice -n -20 dd iflag=direct bs=1M count=50000 if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null
    50000+0 records in
    50000+0 records out
    52428800000 bytes (52 GB) copied, 38.2311 s, 1.4 GB/s
    Writes:
    Code:
    livecd ~ # nice -n -20 dd oflag=direct bs=1M count=50000 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
    50000+0 records in
    50000+0 records out
    52428800000 bytes (52 GB) copied, 63.796 s, 822 MB/s
    Also I verify the standard areca BBU works fine with it:
    Code:
    livecd ~ # ./cli64 hw info
    The Hardware Monitor Information
    =====================================================
    [Controller H/W Monitor]
      CPU Temperature  : 50 C
      Controller Temp. : 46 C
      12V              : 12.160 V
      5V               : 5.160 V
      3.3V             : 3.408 V
      DDR-II +1.8V     : 1.872 V
      CPU    +1.8V     : 1.872 V
      CPU    +1.2V     : 1.280 V
      CPU    +1.0V     : 1.072 V
      DDR-II +0.9V     : 0.928 V
      Battery Status   : 100%
    [Enclosure#1 : ARECA   SAS RAID AdapterV1.0]
    [Enclosure#2 : LSILOGICSASX36 A.1      7015]
      Fan 00           : 0 RPM
      Fan 01           : 0 RPM
      Fan 02           : 0 RPM
      Enclosure Temp   : 35 C
    [Enclosure#3 : LSILOGICSASX36 A.1      7015]
      Fan 00           : 5550 RPM
      Fan 01           : 5280 RPM
      Fan 02           : 5550 RPM
      Enclosure Temp   : 32 C
    =====================================================
    GuiErrMsg<0x00>: Success.
    livecd ~ # ./cli64 vsf info
      # Name             Raid Name       Level   Capacity Ch/Id/Lun  State
    ===============================================================================
      1 ARC-1880-VOL#000                 Raid60    80.0GB 00/00/00   Normal
      2 ARC-1880-VOL#003                 Raid60  65920.0GB 00/00/01   Normal
      3 VOL#000R60Vol2-1 Raid Set # 000  Raid6     40.0GB 00/00/00   Normal
      4 VOL#000R60Vol2-2 Raid Set # 001  Raid6     40.0GB 00/00/00   Normal
      5 VOL#003R60Vol2-1 Raid Set # 000  Raid6   32960.0GB 00/00/01   Normal
      6 VOL#003R60Vol2-2 Raid Set # 001  Raid6   32960.0GB 00/00/01   Normal
    ===============================================================================
    GuiErrMsg<0x00>: Success.
    livecd ~ # ./cli64 disk info
      # Enc# Slot#   ModelName                        Capacity  Usage
    ===============================================================================
      1  01  Slot#1  N.A.                                0.0GB  N.A.
      2  01  Slot#2  N.A.                                0.0GB  N.A.
      3  01  Slot#3  N.A.                                0.0GB  N.A.
      4  01  Slot#4  N.A.                                0.0GB  N.A.
      5  01  Slot#5  N.A.                                0.0GB  N.A.
      6  01  Slot#6  N.A.                                0.0GB  N.A.
      7  01  Slot#7  N.A.                                0.0GB  N.A.
      8  01  Slot#8  N.A.                                0.0GB  N.A.
      9  02  000     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     10  02  001     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     11  02  002     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     12  02  003     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     13  02  004     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     14  02  005     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     15  02  006     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     16  02  007     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     17  02  008     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     18  02  009     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     19  02  010     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     20  02  011     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     21  02  012     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     22  02  013     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     23  02  014     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     24  02  015     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     25  02  016     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     26  02  017     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     27  02  018     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     28  02  019     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     29  02  020     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     30  02  021     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     31  02  022     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     32  02  023     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 000
     33  03  000     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     34  03  001     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     35  03  002     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     36  03  003     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     37  03  004     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     38  03  005     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     39  03  006     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     40  03  007     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     41  03  008     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     42  03  009     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     43  03  010     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     44  03  011     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     45  03  012     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     46  03  013     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     47  03  014     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     48  03  015     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     49  03  016     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     50  03  017     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     51  03  018     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     52  03  019     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     53  03  020     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     54  03  021     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     55  03  022     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
     56  03  023     ST31500341AS                     1500.3GB  Raid Set # 001
    ===============================================================================
    GuiErrMsg<0x00>: Success.
    Not really liking the timeout errors I am seeing while stress testing though... init completed ok:

    Code:
    livecd ~ # ./cli64 event info
    Date-Time            Device           Event Type            Elapsed Time Errors
    ===============================================================================
    2010-10-10 12:07:17  Enc#2 017        Time Out Error
    2010-10-10 12:00:47  Enc#2 SES2Device Time Out Error
    2010-10-10 11:53:44  Enc#3 020        Time Out Error
    2010-10-10 11:53:32  Enc#3 001        Time Out Error
    2010-10-10 11:53:19  Enc#2 022        Time Out Error
    2010-10-10 11:24:41  Enc#3 010        Time Out Error
    2010-10-10 11:06:27  E2 Fan 02        Failed
    2010-10-10 11:06:27  E2 Fan 01        Failed
    2010-10-10 11:06:27  E2 Fan 00        Failed
    2010-10-10 11:06:27  H/W MONITOR      Raid Powered On
    2010-10-10 10:33:37  E2 Fan 02        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:33:37  E2 Fan 01        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:33:37  E2 Fan 00        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:33:37  H/W MONITOR      Raid Powered On
    2010-10-10 10:30:59  E2 Fan 02        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:30:59  E2 Fan 01        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:30:59  E2 Fan 00        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:30:59  H/W MONITOR      Raid Powered On
    2010-10-10 10:27:53  E2 Fan 02        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:27:53  E2 Fan 01        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:27:53  E2 Fan 00        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:27:53  H/W MONITOR      Raid Powered On
    2010-10-10 10:12:37  E2 Fan 02        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:12:37  E2 Fan 01        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:12:37  E2 Fan 00        Failed
    2010-10-10 10:12:37  H/W MONITOR      Raid Powered On
    2010-10-10 09:44:32  VOL#003R60Vol2-1 Complete Init         029:28:15
    2010-10-10 09:12:45  VOL#003R60Vol2-2 Complete Init         028:56:29
    2010-10-09 04:16:16  VOL#003R60Vol2-2 Start Initialize
    2010-10-09 04:16:16  VOL#003R60Vol2-1 Start Initialize
    2010-10-09 04:11:07  010.003.068.087  HTTP Log In
    2010-10-09 04:09:25  E2 Fan 02        Failed
    2010-10-09 04:09:25  E2 Fan 01        Failed
    2010-10-09 04:09:25  E2 Fan 00        Failed
    2010-10-09 04:09:25  H/W MONITOR      Raid Powered On
    2010-10-09 04:08:10  VOL#003R60Vol2-2 Stop Initialization   001:48:04
    2010-10-09 04:08:10  VOL#003R60Vol2-1 Stop Initialization   001:48:01
    2010-10-09 02:20:09  VOL#003R60Vol2-1 Start Initialize
    2010-10-09 02:20:08  VOL#000R60Vol2-1 Complete Init         000:02:13
    2010-10-09 02:20:06  VOL#003R60Vol2-2 Start Initialize
    2010-10-09 02:20:05  VOL#000R60Vol2-2 Complete Init         000:02:10
    2010-10-09 02:18:07  ARC-1880-VOL#003 Create Volume
    2010-10-09 02:17:55  VOL#000R60Vol2-2 Start Initialize
    2010-10-09 02:17:54  VOL#000R60Vol2-1 Start Initialize
    2010-10-09 02:17:53  ARC-1880-VOL#000 Create Volume
    2010-10-09 02:17:31  Raid Set # 001   Create RaidSet
    2010-10-09 02:17:14  Raid Set # 000   Create RaidSet
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    Only 48 drives, I wish someone would come and show some stats using a large array.



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    Good afternoon all,
    Ok so this is 1880 1GB on left and 1231 4GB on right.
    Arrays on both are 4xR0 acards, 4k stripe, 64k cluster
    980 at 4500, pcie 107, all drives are set to sata 150
    I am hoping that adding 4GB to the 1880 will make a nice difference -



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    Seems like it has higher access times...
    But I don't find these speeds to be low in any way, with 4 ACards at SATA150, you would max out at ~450-480 MB/s for all 4.
    The ridicolously high reads/writes (>1GB/s) are just cached reads/writes, so they're not comparable.

    As for the 12 ACard not doing >1GB/s, that's another thing.. try setting volume read ahead to aggressive? It could be the 1880 just doesn't like SATA well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRo View Post
    Also - forgot to mention - this is with 1880 using 1GB cache - 4GB should arrive next week.
    FYI - go see the other thread if you're interested - the 4GB mushkin (correction proline - bot from mushkin) memory is giving me problems.

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=260307
    Last edited by SteveRo; 10-12-2010 at 03:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alfaunits View Post
    Seems like it has higher access times...
    But I don't find these speeds to be low in any way, with 4 ACards at SATA150, you would max out at ~450-480 MB/s for all 4.
    The ridicolously high reads/writes (>1GB/s) are just cached reads/writes, so they're not comparable.

    As for the 12 ACard not doing >1GB/s, that's another thing.. try setting volume read ahead to aggressive? It could be the 1880 just doesn't like SATA well.
    When I can get the 4Gb mushkin to work - I get nice numbers, the seqential reads are much improved.

    For me the 1880 really seems to need the large cache to shine.

    And yes, read ahead is set to aggressive.

    The 1880 seems to work fine with many SSDs based on several posts in this thread.
    The drives I have available to test with are not the standard SSDs, acards and mtron mobi's.
    Neither supports ncq, acards based on ddr2 dimms and mobi's are 1st gen SSDs based on SLC flash.
    I plan to order the tekram 4GB memory this evening and give that a try.
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    so what is the cap limit of this controller??

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    Good morning Tilt!

    Based on what I have seen from atto, it looks like cache-through-pcie max's out at over 3GB/s

    I would have to go back and look at what Paul and Anvil posted to get an idea of max array-through-pcie

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    yes ok for the cache but what is the HDD cap limit???? how many ssd's can max out the controller???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltevros View Post
    yes ok for the cache but what is the HDD cap limit???? how many ssd's can max out the controller???
    Mr Nizzen is getting seq reads of almost 2GB/s, seq writes of about 1.4GB/s in a 2GB atto
    - here - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=19

    This was with 8 c300s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltevros View Post
    yes ok for the cache but what is the HDD cap limit???? how many ssd's can max out the controller???
    Mr Anvil seems to be getting "close to max" with only 3x C300/64s - back a couple pages in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRo View Post
    When I can get the 4Gb mushkin to work - I get nice numbers, the seqential reads are much improved.

    For me the 1880 really seems to need the large cache to shine.

    And yes, read ahead is set to aggressive.

    The 1880 seems to work fine with many SSDs based on several posts in this thread.
    The drives I have available to test with are not the standard SSDs, acards and mtron mobi's.
    Neither supports ncq, acards based on ddr2 dimms and mobi's are 1st gen SSDs based on SLC flash.
    I plan to order the tekram 4GB memory this evening and give that a try.
    I received a stick of the mushkin yesterday and it doesn't work for me. The controller boots up and detects 4GB but in the log it shows a memory error and I can't boot into windows. I went ahead and ordered a 4GB module directly from Tekram and got an RMA to send the mushkin back.

    I'm having a problem getting archttp to recognize my 1880 in Win 7 X64. Any suggestions what I can do to get that working?
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