Bulldozer Die Shot!

[Solus Corvus]

Could it be because there is no chance to actually discuss something here ? Whatever it is posted against the general perception is received with personal attacks only ? If we all agree on something ( like some AMDroids want ) the News section should be closed and some type of newsfeed put in place.

You mention 5 Intel fanboys, I can also count you at least 5 AMD ones which appear in every thread and act as the home guard. The moment you say something which goes against the "the green heaven", you're immediately pounded. There aren't AMD threads as there aren't Intel threads. That's nothing more than an imaginary wall to keep away any dissident thought. Well, sometimes I wish the people who jump with this BS should be beamed into "1984" to have a taste of their own medicine regarding "thought crime".


Out and away also.

Yeah, I agree. Ad hominems don't make an argument and should be moderated or ignored, IMO. But your whiny "but they do it too" Tu Quoque doesn't make for a valid argument either.

Some people might jump on your arguments because they are fanboys, but others jump on your arguments because they are wrong. Stick to the facts and don't resort to ad hominem attacks.

[god_43]

Yeah, I agree. Ad hominems don't make an argument and should be moderated or ignored, IMO. But your whiny "but they do it too" Tu Quoque doesn't make for a valid argument either.

Some people might jump on your arguments because they are fanboys, but others jump on your arguments because they are wrong. Stick to the facts and don't resort to ad hominem attacks.

i tink when dealing with a troll (like savantu), you should just ignore him (ignore lists). i don't know why all of you continue to feed the trolls. they keep spreading the same fud over and over, goading you into responding?

it would be like me saying SB wont come out until 2013 because intel is having problems.....as far as i know they are not but....its an example.

[AliG]

it would be like me saying SB wont come out until 2013 because intel is having problems.....as far as i know they are not but....its an example.

watchutalkinboutson?

Intel aint have no problem because they be rich.

In all seriousness I highly doubt Intel will ever experience delays beyond 6 months due to their current management team and direction combined with their money

[duploxxx]

watchutalkinboutson?

Intel aint have no problem because they be rich.

In all seriousness I highly doubt Intel will ever experience delays beyond 6 months due to their current management team and direction combined with their money

Beckton

[Florinmocanu]

Beckton

Larrabee

[flippin_waffles]

Larrabee

Tukwila

[savantu]

.....
I hope you'll wake up from your dellusion when in the next 3 months you'll see the 32nm products being officially delayed.
...

Not nice to quote myself, but hey, I gave it 3 months, it only took 1 week. I should change my nickname to Nostradamus.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...mmer_2011.html

A high-ranking official for Advanced Micro Devices said that the company would initiate mass shipments of its code-named Llano products in the first half of next year. Partners of AMD would start sales of systems featuring Llano - the hybrid processor that features x86 as well as graphics cores - in Summer 2011.

"Llano will start shipping in the first half or 2011, and products should be available in summer 2011," said Leslie Sobon, vice president of worldwide product marketing at AMD, in an interview with Inside Hardware web-site.

Between 1,5 and 3 month.

Apparently they are 6+.

BD was always supposed to launch after Llano on matured process.
Low yields could be a stop-factor for production of Llano as it is low-margin product. I don't see low yields affecting launch of BD at all, since it is a high-margin server chip.

Yeah, Llano being delayed for 6 months has no impact whatsoever on BD. Apparently AMD forgot how to make a shrink of the K10 core but everything if fine with BD.

Original source of that info is "AMD Q2 2010 Earnings Conference Call". You can read it here:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2147...all?part=qanda

So exact quotes of Dirk Meyer are

Anything past that is pure speculation.

Indeed.

savantu trolling the forum posting his usual crap without ANY reliable sources is getting extremely annoying, there should be a rule against posting COMPLETE FUD without any remotely RELIABLE sources at all (hell even fudzilla is more reliable than savantu's sources )...

all normal sources indicated that the bulldozer is on track; llano got delayed by a month (which is an extremely long time ) and that GF 32nm is on track (delay of a single CPU doesn't necessarily mean that the process is broken...)

If you have a spine, better show it. Not that I expect you to have one...

i tink when dealing with a troll (like savantu), you should just ignore him (ignore lists). i don't know why all of you continue to feed the trolls. they keep spreading the same fud over and over, goading you into responding?

it would be like me saying SB wont come out until 2013 because intel is having problems.....as far as i know they are not but....its an example.

Apparently, the only ones spreading FUD is you and other of your kind with green lenses. No problem that they are green, the problem is to have something behind the lenses to actually process the information.

When executive talk about small issues, take note, because they are massive. If they are massive, they are already bailed out ( Henry Richard ).
Some are so gullible that they fail to understand the double nature of executive talk.

[freeloader]

AMD late again?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...mmer_2011.html

Geez, who would've thought something like that might happen. LOL....If it was my company, heads would roll.

[Dimitriman]

AMD late again?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...mmer_2011.html

Geez, who would've thought something like that might happen. LOL....If it was my company, heads would roll.

QFT

cumon AMD...

It's hard to believe that the ATI and AMD are actually the same company now. Such differences in ability to deliver...

[Xoulz]

Not nice to quote myself, but hey, I gave it 3 months, it only took 1 week. I should change my nickname to Nostradamus.

None of that^^ changes the fact that you are a troll.

[SEA]

Not nice to quote myself, but hey, I gave it 3 months, it only took 1 week. I should change my nickname to Nostradamus.

to Trollidamus maybe?

Where you see any delay? They told many times that they put Llano after Ontario and they keep at this schedule. AMD told more than year ago that LLano scheduled for 2011:

SUNNYVALE, Calif. --11/11/2009
...
AMD 2011 Roadmap Overview

[savantu]

to Trollitamus maybe?

As always, where reason stops, it turns to personal attacks.

Where you see any delay? They told many times that they put Llano after Ontario and they keep at this schedule. AMD told more than year ago that LLano scheduled for 2011:

SUNNYVALE, Calif. --11/11/2009
...
AMD 2011 Roadmap Overview

That's your ing delay, right there.
Llano was supposed to ship for revenue in Q4 2010 and launch Q1 2011. Now it is shipping for revenue in H1 2011 and general release is summer ( that is Q3 2011 ).
A 6 month delay.

[MrMojoZ]

Apparently, the only ones spreading FUD is you and other of your kind with green lenses. No problem that they are green, the problem is to have something behind the lenses to actually process the information.

As always, where reason stops, it turns to personal attacks.

Pot vs. Kettle?

An Intel *fan* posting non-stop negativity in AMD threads (isn't this against forum rules? ) calling AMD fans too stupid to process information is complaining about personal attacks. I love it.

[Hornet331]

Pot vs. Kettle?

An Intel *fan* posting non-stop negativity in AMD threads (isn't this against forum rules? ) calling AMD fans too stupid to process information is complaining about personal attacks. I love it.

Only when they have no baisis.

[SEA]

Where you see any delay? They told many times that they put Llano after Ontario and they keep at this schedule. AMD told more than year ago that LLano scheduled for 2011:
That's your ing delay, right there.
Llano was supposed to ship for revenue in Q4 2010 and launch Q1 2011. Now it is shipping for revenue in H1 2011 and general release is summer ( that is Q3 2011 ).
A 6 month delay.

No arguments anymore and you started playing with words?
You are trying to assign new meaning for word "put".
After this you really should not take offense for Trollidamus...
AMD created schedule for themselves where they put (=placed, not moved) different products in different order. Initially. They did not move the order.

[savantu]

No arguments anymore and you started playing with words?
You are trying to assign new meaning for word "put".
After this you really should not take offense for Trollidamus...
AMD created schedule for themselves where they put (=placed, not moved) different products in different order. Initially. They did not move the order.

You are a bit confused. Reread 10 times what you wrote and what I did and maybe you'll see the light.