MSI GTX 460 HAWK can reach 1Ghz mark :O

[SubZero.it]

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/349...ard/index.html
The second link is the review with overclocking
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/34...ked/index.html

[Mungri]

Other than the cooler, it just has an extra power phase.

I would assume that these cards will manage to OC to 950-1000 Mhz, if you buy one and you dont even get 950 Mhz, I'd return it as it wouldnt be worth the extra cost over a cyclone or gigabyte.

[Funky]

I would believe when we see cards in hands of people other than reviewers.
I simply cannot forget how dismal the HAWK that actually hit retail were at clocking last time around. There are still posts and threads about them right here on XS. I had two. One was review sample, oced really well. I ended up buying it retail, and that was crap.

[Mungri]

It seems they are high quality PCBs and coolers, but the GPus arent highly binned. You get a solid built card, but the overclock limits are completely random still.

In that case I really dont think the difference is worth it, they are £40 more in the UK.

[RAGNAROKUN]

940-950mhz
No VR or memory cooling is a shame...
at least mounting holes to place heatsinks...

the DIP switches are for??

[cowie]

I dont bs about clocks but have no ss
1.18v(max ab) was good for 1000 for vantage.....then i thuogh i would be a smartass and try more(1.28v)passing my 1050 clocks i got on the palit with ln2,when a vrm took a dump mf'er i hate that.
i got greedy,i should have known better
my new record of 15 minutes to kill a card...fudge i hate when that happens

was vrm area that it blew

[Funky]

It seems they are high quality PCBs and coolers, but the GPus arent highly binned. You get a solid built card, but the overclock limits are completely random still.

In that case I really dont think the difference is worth it, they are £40 more in the UK.

Exactly, it was like they sent selected cherry picked GPUs to the reviewers. Everyone got excellent results, and when people actually bought it, it was totally random. Some even oced worse than other standard reference cards.

[Jokester_wild]

Exactly, it was like they sent selected cherry picked GPUs to the reviewers. Everyone got excellent results, and when people actually bought it, it was totally random. Some even oced worse than other standard reference cards.

Sounds about right for MSI.

[Sam_oslo]

We have been using the art of batch# tracking for Intel CPUs for a good while now, maybe we have to find a similar way to track down good GPUs too?.

[Olivon]

We have been using the art of batch# tracking for Intel CPUs for a good while now, maybe we have to find a similar way to track down good GPUs too?.

Yeah, nice question Sam, interesting to know ...

[RAGNAROKUN]

I dont bs about clocks but have no ss
1.18v(max ab) was good for 1000 for vantage.....then i thuogh i would be a smartass and try more(1.28v)passing my 1050 clocks i got on the palit with ln2,when a vrm took a dump mf'er i hate that.
i got greedy,i should have known better
my new record of 15 minutes to kill a card...fudge i hate when that happens

was vrm area that it blew

OMG you really burned a Gcard brand new.....

then maybe the msi cyclone 1GB is the choice..

[Booj]

I dont bs about clocks but have no ss
1.18v(max ab) was good for 1000 for vantage.....then i thuogh i would be a smartass and try more(1.28v)passing my 1050 clocks i got on the palit with ln2,when a vrm took a dump mf'er i hate that.
i got greedy,i should have known better
my new record of 15 minutes to kill a card...fudge i hate when that happens

was vrm area that it blew
[IMG]http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3444/30253167.jpg

[IMG]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2776/dscn0002ke.jpg

Damn mate thats nasty

I've got one of these coming, I probably would have done the same thing eeek. I'll definitely try to dig up some low profile sinks that fit under the main cooler for that vrm.

[cowie]

Damn mate thats nasty

I've got one of these coming, I probably would have done the same thing eeek. I'll definitely try to dig up some low profile sinks that fit under the main cooler for that vrm.

hey booj
i just checked the ones that came with my as1 cooler,they fit ...barely but anything taller will crush down on the vrm rows if too tall
your going to like this card its a beast,believe the hype
my new one should be here in a week or so.
hope you get a good one

[RAGNAROKUN]

hey booj
i just checked the ones that came with my as1 cooler,they fit ...barely but anything taller will crush down on the vrm rows if too tall
your going to like this card its a beast,believe the hype
my new one should be here in a week or so.
hope you get a good one

how can you attach without mounting holes for VRM heatsink

[Mungri]

how can you attach without mounting holes for VRM heatsink

Thermal tape + Enzotech VRM sinks work, even a big sink you can use a piece of thermal tape stuck across the VRM chips.

Its ridiculous that the Hawk version doesnt have VRM cooling.

I dont bs about clocks but have no ss
1.18v(max ab) was good for 1000 for vantage.....then i thuogh i would be a smartass and try more(1.28v)passing my 1050 clocks i got on the palit with ln2,when a vrm took a dump mf'er i hate that.
i got greedy,i should have known better
my new record of 15 minutes to kill a card...fudge i hate when that happens

MSI only allow these cards to be used at 1.212v max. Going over the Afterburner limit is always going to be a huge gamble. I would have definitely tried sticking on some VRM sinks before overvolting that high.

We have been using the art of batch# tracking for Intel CPUs for a good while now, maybe we have to find a similar way to track down good GPUs too?.

Im not so sure that this will work purely based on how vastly the overclocks on the GTX 460 vary from card to card. They are a lot more random than Intel CPUs are.

[cowie]

how can you attach without mounting holes for VRM heatsink

I meant using the ram sinks,the vrm one you get is tad tall and offset to only cover one row.
plus what bhavv said

MSI only allow these cards to be used at 1.212v max. Going over the Afterburner limit is always going to be a huge gamble. I would have definitely tried sticking on some VRM sinks before overvolting that high.

Yes i know i dont know what came over me??? i did not even swap out the paste..i got all "noobcakes" i never pump volts till cold sometime i dont even then.
i was just messing around on air till i noticed 1.21v was good for 1050 for a vantage run with temps not over 75C.
so i figured out how to get 1.28v and was going 1100,mid way thuogh gt1 it blew a rod with smoke and sparks nah just smoke.
i had few liters of ln2 planned for today but i got way too gready i had a cherry and killed it.

btw
does anyone know any info on the jumper switches on the back of the card?

[Garrett_Wu]

I meant using the ram sinks,the vrm one you get is tad tall and offset to only cover one row.
plus what bhavv said



Yes i know i dont know what came over me??? i did not even swap out the paste..i got all "noobcakes" i never pump volts till cold sometime i dont even then.
i was just messing around on air till i noticed 1.21v was good for 1050 for a vantage run with temps not over 75C.
so i figured out how to get 1.28v and was going 1100,mid way thuogh gt1 it blew a rod with smoke and sparks nah just smoke.
i had few liters of ln2 planned for today but i got way too gready i had a cherry and killed it.

btw
does anyone know any info on the jumper switches on the back of the card?

Hi, how do you get 1.28V? by using Afterburner special version or just mod the PWM?

but the way, the jumper on the back of Hawk is designed for overclocker, one is OCP unlocker, which unlock OCP to higher value. the other one is to cut off thermal signal loop back of GPU <-> internal sensor, in theory, it can prevent thermal shutdown/slowdown we found on NVIDIA 40nm GPU with internal thermal sensor, but since no one has 460 copper container mount gear when I design this function, I guess we have to wait and see if it works (that's why MSI didn't promote this publicly, and position it as hidden features).

[Oliver]

but the way, the jumper on the back of Hawk is designed for overclocker, one is OCP unlocker, which unlock OCP to higher value. the other one is cut off thermal signal loop back of GPU, in theory, it can prevent thermal shutdown/slowdown we found on NVIDIA 40nm GPU with internal thermal sensor.

[cowie]

Hi, how do you get 1.28V? by using Afterburner special version or just mod the PWM?

but the way, the jumper on the back of Hawk is designed for overclocker, one is OCP unlocker, which unlock OCP to higher value. the other one is to cut off thermal signal loop back of GPU <-> internal sensor, in theory, it can prevent thermal shutdown/slowdown we found on NVIDIA 40nm GPU with internal thermal sensor, but since no one has 460 copper container mount gear when I design this function, I guess we have to wait and see if it works (that's why MSI didn't promote this publicly, and position it as hidden features).

HI Garrett
the jumpers should be left in those positions then for each purpose?or moved? that was what i was wondering.
i'll get back to you on that this week when i get another card on how the extreme cooling jumper thing works
The ocp seems to work well you did great with this card man
As for how i got 1.28v...thruogh software,btw ab beta 6x did not work(for me?) with this card.i think i'd rather not say publicly how i did it if it leads to more of my results.

[Garrett_Wu]

HI Garrett
the jumpers should be left in those positions then for each purpose?or moved? that was what i was wondering.
i'll get back to you on that this week when i get another card on how the extreme cooling jumper thing works
The ocp seems to work well you did great with this card man
As for how i got 1.28v...thruogh software,btw ab beta 6x did not work(for me?) with this card.i think i'd rather not say publicly how i did it if it leads to more of my results.

1-2 position means "off", 3-4 position means "on" for each function. if I remember right, 1/3 is for OCP unlock "OFF/ON", 2/4 is for XtremeCool "OFF/ON"

Afterburner beta 7 and above supports 460 Hawk.

Do let us know how Hawk performs under LN2, I really expect to see something amazing.

[cowie]

Thanks for the info

I'll try to run well and will do some temp testing under cold

keep up the good work!
not too many companys that would do these sort of things for the vga overclockers.

[Olivon]

Card looks great with many features but why no heatspreaders on VRMs ?

[RAGNAROKUN]

1-2 position means "off", 3-4 position means "on" for each function. if I remember right, 1/3 is for OCP unlock "OFF/ON", 2/4 is for XtremeCool "OFF/ON"

Afterburner beta 7 and above supports 460 Hawk.

Do let us know how Hawk performs under LN2, I really expect to see something amazing.

ln2,switches and military components but VRM prone to burn out

[cowie]

that is sorta a low blow i had more volts then any other card could even take without a black screen, was my own fault not the cards.
other card for this price have squat on the vrms??
i normally wont defend big companys but this time i feel like i should.
the issue here was between the keyboard and the chair.

[Billy-The-Kid]

This graphic will be really powerful! And price for that....