A year from now you'll see BD for the desktop. If you want something faster than your 965, then grab a cheap X6 1055 and wait until Q3 of next year or grab a Sandy Bridge setup from Intel. And this coming from an AMD user.Originally Posted by Oj101
I don't care about the FUD, I care that it's time to upgrade my 965BE and I can't wait for BD's releaseI'm almost tempted to go for server hardware to satisfy myself
Last edited by freeloader; 09-02-2010 at 10:14 AM.
As quoted by LowRun......"So, we are one week past AMD's worst case scenario for BD's availability but they don't feel like communicating about the delay, I suppose AMD must be removed from the reliable sources list for AMD's products launch dates"
I think you could rather buy an octy MC and a dual socket mobo... this will be somewhat future-proof... as after BD comes you should be able to run it with a simple bios update... which is not something that you could say about Intel platforms (both server and desktop) and AMD's desktop offerings at this point in time...A year from now you'll see BD for the desktop. If you want something faster than your 965, then grab a cheap X6 1055 and wait until Q3 of next year or grab a Sandy Bridge setup from Intel. And this coming from an AMD user.
Edit: Makes for an incredible value proposition too... what with the cheapest MC coming in at $290 appx and dual socket board for about $450
FYR...
Mobo... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131643
CPU... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819105266
Last edited by tifosi; 09-03-2010 at 12:06 AM.
The big problem with AMDs dual server boards are that they are not overclockable!
If the MC dual boards ever came out as an overclockable workstation board, then I would by two or three of them!
If MC or BD CPUs came out unlocked (like Intel's) runs at around 3.0 GHz, then I would buy four to six CPUs!
If AMD released BD as an Phenom FX CPU for G34 or whatever socket that comes out, then I would buy four to six of those CPUs!
Last edited by scorpidragon; 09-03-2010 at 01:42 AM.
Did you really miss this thread?The big problem with AMDs dual server boards are that they are not overclockable!
If the MC dual boards ever came out as an overclockable workstation board, then I would by two or three of them!
If MC or BD CPUs came out unlocked (like Intel's) runs at around 3.0 GHz, then I would buy four to six CPUs!
If AMD released BD as an Phenom FX CPU for G34 or whatever socket that comes out, then I would buy four to six of those CPUs!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=233565
This bloke blew the pants off of the opty :P
Not really interested in that thread.
The reason as to why I am not interested in G34 server boards are that they cannot be overclocked!
Not really interested in that thread.
The reason as to why I am not interested in G34 server boards are that they cannot be overclocked!
opterons have dual link ht so they can talk between themselves .. so you will need to look into server motherboard ... nothing else .. sorry but what you are dreaming about has to come from the server world ...
Me..Four systems running here and none are single socket.
Why? Here's some reasons:
1) Boards are better quality
2) Electrical usage for a given job done is better.
3) Space: The duals outperform the singles by a wide margin and take essentially the same space
4) Buy top boards,they don't break and I mean DON'T.
Whens the last time you saw a single socket board run 3+ years at 100% load with out a boot other than from a electrical outage or twice a year cleaning?
I see that all the time.
5) Time effectiveness: Toss any muti threaded task on a dualie and it's done much faster than any single socket machine can do.
Ok,thats settled, back on topic now.
Oh, I forgot one thing:
6) E-PEEN!
how much did all your dually system cost you ????
and yes i know people like to oc stuff up .. but only people on xs ... most people use their stock clocks system without any problem ..... BUT THOSE PEOPLE WORK and dont game ....
and to tell you the truth my single socket am2 opteron never did have to shutdown for a whole 13 months .. and i did a reboot only because a hdd crashed ....
e-peen is all that matters to people oc'ing dual socket boards ....
Last edited by Sn0wm@n; 09-12-2010 at 05:17 PM.
WILL CUDDLE FOR FOOD
Yeah I'd say so. But I have heard that AMD maybe bring out a new 1P/2P board that will target high-end users?opterons have dual link ht so they can talk between themselves .. so you will need to look into server motherboard ... nothing else .. sorry but what you are dreaming about has to come from the server world ...
Looks like I will need 12 threaded CPU then.
So that means I'll need the following then:
Phenom FX 12 core 3.2GHz CPU (with MCM Thuban) for socket G34.
16GB to 32GB DDR3 RAM.
SATA6 x4/x8 PCIe RAID card.
USB 3.0 x4 PCIe card.
Radeon HD5850/6850 PCIe card.
If I've said it once, I've said it probably four or five times: This is simply not true. Believe it or not, some of us aren't 100% work or 100% play.
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