New Swiftech H20-X20 Edge cooling kits

[gabe]

Hi Guys;

Following a long established tradition, I wanted to give the members of this forum some sneak pics and info on the upcoming series of H20-X20 Edge cooling kits. To the members of the Media who frequent this forum, please wait for the upcoming press release prior to publishing news about this.

This is not a "casual" release for us, as we consider these devices to be the next step in the evolution of consummer liquid cooling kits (Darwin, can you hear me ?)

The kits are based on no less than 3 (three) NEW products.. ready?

• Revision 2 of the MCR X20 Drive heat exchangers: allows installation in both horizontal and vertical orientations
• New MCP35X pump, with PWM control, variable speed from 1300 rpm to 4500 rpm
• New Apogee XTL water-block, a budget-friendly variant of the XT with same performance, but a Delrin housing, and no reversible ports cover

Here are the pics:

H20-220 Edge



H20-320 Edge




The new MCR-X20 Drive Revision 2 series:




and finally, the new Apogee XTL




I personnaly installed these kits in several systems, the first one back at CES earlier this year where I demonstrated a silent system equipped with an overclocked quad and (2) GTX295's in SLI (had to demo it in a hotel room so ppl could hear the absence of noise), the second in my own workstation , and the third in a high end system built in a mountainmods case for EVGA at Quakecon. Installation of the kit took me less than an hour, and the performance range is simply superb.

The kits include all kind of goodies, several hardware packs and a radbox for multiple radiator installation strategies both internal and external, hardware for a case fill-port cover, and an installation CD that took me months to prepare, including 24 detailed 3D models of various case configurations. Here are snap shots of a few examples below:













Regarding performance, you guys already have all the information you need, since I used these kits to perform all my tests in the articles posted here and here

Here are some more clarifications that I'm sure will come up in subsequent questions:

New MCP35X pumps: no pics, since it is built into the radiator... but I can certainly hint that a new pump with a Swiftech hi-performance top is upcoming this month.

New Apogee XTL: this waterblock will not be sold individually until the end of September.

And now for MSRP pricing:

H20-220 Edge: $309.95
H20-320 Edge: $339.95
MCR-220 Drive (Rev2) with MCP35X pump: $212.95
MCR-220 Drive (Rev2) without pump: $131.95
MCR-320 Drive (Rev2) with MCP35X pump: $225.95
MCR-320 Drive (Rev2) without pump: $144.95
Apogee XTL: $59.95

Availability: we are starting to ship to retail channels this week, so expect to see the products at your favorite Swiftech store by mid-end of next week.

I will be monitoring this post today if there are any questions.

[Vapor]

Awesome stuff across the board, Gabe

[Movieman]

Gabe:
Is this the unit I saw in the room at the XS CES party last Jan?
If so guys I can vouch that this sucker was running over 4GHz with 2-295 cards and dead quiet at 100% load.
When I say quiet I mean you had to stick your head right on the case to hear anything.
It was very impressive.

[gabe]

Awesome stuff across the board, Gabe

Thanks

Gabe:
Is this the unit I saw in the room at the XS CES party last Jan?
If so guys I can vouch that this sucker was running over 4GHz with 2-295 cards and dead quiet at 100% load.
When I say quiet I mean you had to stick your head right on the case to hear anything.
It was very impressive.

same one except for the Drive unit which now has the L shaped res which I didn't have back at CES. Othen than that, it's all the same. Gotta say, I do love my silent workstation!

[Movieman]

same one except for the Drive unit which now has the L shaped res which I didn't have back at CES. Othen than that, it's all the same. Gotta say, I do love my silent workstation!

You just forgot one option in your list:
The option to add an additional XT for us dualie guys!
Looks like a winner..Congrats!

[gabe]

You just forgot one option in your list:
The option to add an additional XT for us dualie guys!
Looks like a winner..Congrats!

Still waiting for Jacob to send mine

[jayhall0315]

Gabe - Stuff looks good. Please check the nominal diameter of the screws and the threads used on the Apogee XT (the expensive version) bolts and the back plate. When fully seated you are pushing a large amount of torque (Nm) and the screw down bolts can strip the threads in the back plate. (this happened on my two main personal systems at home and the lab, and I am not doing something crazy or weird)

...And yes, you were wronged in a minor fashion.... after extensive testing I can say definitively that the Apogee XT does out perform the EK Supreme HF (by about 0.45 deg C on average, all things being equal) and the restriction is not as bad as the figures many keep copying from others.

[NaeKuh]

gabe a new direct drive please

Ive been praying and praying for one.

[gabe]

gabe a new direct drive please

Ive been praying and praying for one.

what's that? you mean the CPU + Drive version? ain't gona happen buddy, sorry. My vision is the patent pending rad + drive, not the CPU + drive. It's more effective, easier to upgrade when CPU form factor changes, and we found ithe rad+ drive 100% safer for an open loop.

[NaeKuh]

what's that? you mean the CPU + Drive version? ain't gona happen buddy, sorry. My vision is the patent pending rad + drive, not the CPU + drive. It's more effective, easier to upgrade when CPU form factor changes, and we found ithe rad+ drive 100% safer for an open loop.

then we have no real solution for a real SFF.

With the big wave of HTPC, i feel a direct drive would spark a lot of interest.

But i agree with ya on the not being able to upgrade part.

However, i dont think people upgrade there HTPC's that often, unless its there primary.

[gabe]

then we have no real solution for a real SFF.

With the big wave of HTPC, i feel a direct drive would spark a lot of interest.

But i agree with ya on the not being able to upgrade part.

However, i dont think people upgrade there HTPC's that often, unless its there primary.

As I hinted to, there is a safety issue with this pump when configured in a CPU+Drive. Safety to me is absolutely paramount.

So I guess we don't have an HTPC solution... yet. There are other options.

[justin150]

then we have no real solution for a real SFF.

With the big wave of HTPC, i feel a direct drive would spark a lot of interest.

But i agree with ya on the not being able to upgrade part.

However, i dont think people upgrade there HTPC's that often, unless its there primary.

I am with you on this one although (and I know I about to get flamed by Aquatuning haters) I think a slightly larger version of the new Lian Li PC Q08 and the 200x200 Phobya radiator has some real possibilities say in a case measuring 300(W)x300(H)x340(D) Indeed it might even be possible to run 2 separate loops to 2 200x200 Phobya radiators in that size of case and MATX motherboard, admittedly not much room for Hard disks but would you be happy with one HDD, one SDD, twin GPUs (on one loop) and an overclocked CPU and other bits on the other?

You are more knowledgeable than me on these things but my idea seems logical

[iandh]

gabe a new direct drive please

Ive been praying and praying for one.

No offense meant, but the block mounted pump was a dud from day one for a single reason... there isn't enough mass in the pump, block, cpu/socket, and motherboard to effectively dampen lower frequency vibration. Not to mention which, the motherboard and motherboard tray are essentially acting as soundboards, just like in a piano.

That is the main reason (IMO) that mounting to the radiator is vastly superior. The water in the radiator is an incredibly effective mass dampener, which I am guessing is one of the main reasons why this system is so much quieter as per first hand accounts.

This is the very same reason I always giggle when I see people trying to eliminate noise by isolating fans from radiators using vibration dampening mounts... they should be doing the exact opposite and coupling the fans to the radiators as firmly as possible to take advantage of the mass of the radiator and coolant.

[sn0man]

This is the very same reason I always giggle when I see people trying to eliminate noise by isolating fans from radiators using vibration dampening mounts... they should be doing the exact opposite and coupling the fans to the radiators as firmly as possible to take advantage of the mass of the radiator and coolant.

I've always thought the same thing.

[skinnee]

Good stuff Gabe, especially with the installation scenario renders.

New MCP35X pumps: no pics, since it is built into the radiator... but I can certainly hint that a new pump with a Swiftech hi-performance top is upcoming this month.

Do you mind if I post pictures of the pump?

[gabe]

Good stuff Gabe, especially with the installation scenario renders.



Do you mind if I post pictures of the pump?

Hey that reminds me.. you have an early sample of this... it'd be interesting to compare flow rates between this 2 piece kit and a standard 4 piece kit.. yes you can show pics now (here please to avoid redundant posts)

[skinnee]

Hey that reminds me.. you have an early sample of this... it'd be interesting to compare flow rates between this 2 piece kit and a standard 4 piece kit.. yes you can show pics now (here please to avoid redundant posts)

I have a bit more planned than just flow rates.

Pics will be added to this thread later tonight.

[gabe]

I have a bit more planned than just flow rates.

Pics will be added to this thread later tonight.

Wait till you get the new pump top, it hauls a@#s! I'll send you a sample as soon as I get my prod in a few days.

[NaeKuh]

oh incase anyone would like me to confirm gabe's claims.

I saw the machine @ ces, and it was most definitely quiet.

It didnt push performance in the XS style were used to, but it did keep the machine in complete check, and the heat values were acceptable.
And yes a few of us had to put our ears next to the pump to make sure it was on. :P

The PWM DDC pump was very nice.

[Vapor]

Is the MCP350 also coming out in a PWM version?

[gabe]

Is the MCP350 also coming out in a PWM version?

The MCP35X is a 350.. and a 355, all in one, that's why we call it the 35X

[NaeKuh]

The MCP35X is a 350.. and a 355, all in one, that's why we call it the 35X

ROFLROFL

great a new DDC for everyone to get confused about.

[Alexandr0s]

ROFLROFL

great a new DDC for everyone to get confused about.

I think we need a flow chart to make sure everyone understands which pump they have .

[NaeKuh]

I think we need a flow chart to make sure everyone understands which pump they have .

u need power level and rankings next to it.

set the RD-30 @ power level over 9000, and work down from that..

[gabe]

ROFLROFL

great a new DDC for everyone to get confused about.

ok.. I'll take it off the table then