the translator was really horrible, so it was an utter pain to read
why not test it with AOD aswell? the values for everest looked high and the values for easy tune looked perfectly normal. almost every AMD OCer knows that after 60C with basically any 45nm chip, you will get unstable results very easily.
AOD?
Nevermind that showed even more nonsense than easytune, with lower than ambient idle temps. How can you say easytune is right since theres barely any difference between heatsinks and fans used.
If the heatpipes are really hot and some software 'only' shows 50 degrees you know something is not right. Everest might not be the best but its the closest to reality.
Last edited by halfwaythere; 08-23-2010 at 10:46 AM.
Originally Posted by Cleatus
AOD = AMD Over-Drive
what defines really hot, did they have a thermal camera? i just read over it again and didnt see any mention of them touching the heatpipes
I think it says a lot when the newest prefab CPU water cooling unit performs comparably to one of the major players in the aftermarket CPU air cooling category. It's always nice to see advances in design producing better results than previous iterations, but I think the prefab WC units are kind of iffy. Seems to me like they've still got a ways to go before they live up to their potential.
It is nice to finally see a pic of the block fins (image 2 in the above link)....
X5670 B1 @175x24=4.2GHz @1.24v LLC on
Rampage III Extreme Bios 0003
G.skill Eco @1600 (7-7-7-20 1T) @1.4v
EVGA GTX 580 1.5GB
Auzen X-FI Prelude
Seasonic X-650 PSU
Intel X25-E SLC RAID 0
Samsung F3 1TB
Corsair H70 with dual 1600 rpm fan
Corsair 800D
3008WFP A00
wow thats alot of surface area
i wonder if anyone planned on taking the base and throwing a super powerful pump at it
If this is true, then the temperatures for the H70 with an I7 at 4.0 Ghz are the same as my current setup at 4.2 Ghz:
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/c...r_h70_review/3
If I lap my current CPU + Triton 88, they will vastly outperform the H70.
These corsair coolers really arent worth it. Either go full air, or full water IMO.
H70 shows worse temps than H50
review seems fail
Do we have any more accurate reviews comparing more coolers? Im only interested in 4.0 Ghz+ results, the one above showing the 3.8 Ghz result is dire, mine maxes out at 72-75 degrees at 3.8 Ghz and much lower voltages. Also note that I need 1.35v for 4.2 Ghz, and 1.3625v for 4.2 with 100% LLC, so the H70 does look to be exactly the same as what I currently have.
I currently get 85-89 degrees with my triton 88 with low speed fans under 100% at 4.2 Ghz, but only 83-85 at 4.0 Ghz.
4.2 Ghz is still fine in everything outside prime, so thats why I'm thinking that lapping what I currently have would make far more sense than a new cooler or CPU because there havnt been any decent upgrades to the I7 920 worth getting yet (no affordable 32 nm quad or hex core). Its only £6 for a lapping kit, I'm just missing a completely flat surface.
Last edited by Mungri; 08-24-2010 at 04:20 PM.
weve seen alot of mini reviews, and most show a good 5-10C improvement over the H50 (with stock fans)
just physics should be enough to show a testing method went wrong, and any lack of justification or theory dosnt help show off quality in a review
And most H50 reviews that I saw were far worse than my temperatures on Air, so comparing H70 to H50 doesnt mean a lot to me.
air cooling is hard to mess up the orientation, and if your open benching its harder to know actual results people will see
with the corsair coolers you have to pay attention to how you test and make it very known all the other factors too (like other fans in the case, no point have 2000rpm intake with 1x 800rpm exhaust)
looking at how much testing goes into the watercooling section's reviews right on this site should give you an idea that the quality of information out there is astounding, and so many review sites care so little about their quality of testing, and just want to rush it out so they can be googled like the rest.
Yea, lots of the review results really fluctuate on these coolers, some are good, some are bad.
My results are with the case fully closed and everything setup, and with lots and lots of reseating the cooler until I got the temperatures low.
I wanted a better cooler without going full water (I like the looks and aesthetics of Air fans a lot more than tubes), but were looking for a better CPU cooler, and nothing yet has bettered the one that I have.
I'm just never seeing anything significantly better than what I already have, also if I replace the extra fans on my cooler with high RPM ones, it would also improve, but I prefer to use 1200 RPM silent fans. So I'll try to lap, just the cooler at first, and then the CPU after Im onto my third year of the warranty if there still arent any nice 32 nm chips available.
Using the same fan (single Akasa 1200rpm pushing and exhausting), H70 in Lian-Li 7FNWX is on par with Venomous X in Antec 1200. In other words, H70 is just a little better than high-end air coolers.
all high end coolers are awesome. and i think ive said it twice in this thread alone and a few times back for the H50 reviews.
get one that fits your needs and goals, they are all a little different (except all the ones that look just like a TRUE)
It all depends on the load and the fans used. So far there haven't been any real apples to apples comparisons but its pretty safe to say that if you aren't space constrained a highend air cooler is probably better for both lower temps and noise, otherwise an allinone water cooling kit is the next best thing.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/co...d14-4-53ghz/4/
Well this was closer than we thought, the Corsair H70 is only 2 degrees behind the Noctua NH D14 with the Vantage trailing by a further 5c. The Thermaltake frio sounds like a helicopter at high fan speeds so thankfully this test didn’t last too long.
What happens if we decide to add a third fan to the Noctua NH D14?
Faceman
^^
God damnit, I want a 970 but its too much
Cheaper 32 nm chips soon please
Hate to revive an old thread but this is just too short to be a review.
I got mine yesterday and so far I am extremely happy with it. H70 worked really well in my system significantly reducing temps and noise. I eliminated 2 fans from the system. I am only using one Scythe SFF21F at 5V (600RPM) to cool my cpu xeon 3520 (aka i7 920) at stock speeds (3 ghz @ turbo). By removing the heatsink blowing hot air directly on the back of my 480 gtx, I also improve my gpu temps. Now CPU fan kicks in a lot later when gaming. A word of caution, I had the hardest time trying to fit the retention clip. It didn't fit my mobo even though it's a socket 1366 mobo. Supermicro X8SAX is not the most popular x58 mobo though. I can't vouch for overclocking situations but it works really well in my case.
Here's how it looks in my system (Note: you are looking at a H2g0 case from top)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/349...er/index6.html
soooo according to tweaktown h70 is only half a degree better under load than h50? 0_o
I wonder how they mounted the radiator in their TEC setup... will start testing the unit as soon as the i970 arrives tomorrow
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Another episode of useless consumer advice brought to you by tweaktown. You have no idea how easy is to screw up some tests. You don't even have to be very smart.
Waiting for your input Lee. Hoping to see an apples to apples comparison, noise wise, with a decent air cooler.
Tests will be conducted in a Lian Li case, air cooler Thermalright VenomousX, H50 & H70
CPU's : i875K (go go Massman), i950 & 970 (go go Gamer), 1090T... all at least at 4ghz...
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